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Dunefolk units

Dune Burner is the only unit with fire from the Dunefolk faction. Use him to attack skeletons or woses. They are similar to mages.

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  • good defense in mountains and villages
  • lawful, slight vulnerability to blade attacks
  • strong vs skeletons, woses and saurians; weak vs cavalry, ulfserkers and grunts
  • weak melee attack (blade), strong ranged attack (fire)

Dune Herbalist can heal himself and all adjancement units. Basically a healer with melee impact damage.

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  • good defense in mountains and villages
  • liminal, slight vulnerability to blade attacks
  • strong vs goblins and skeleton archers; weak vs almost everyone, especially ghosts and archers/mages
  • weak melee attack (impact)

Dune Rover is a good, balanced fighter, usable in most situations.

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  • good defense in mountains and villages
  • liminal, no vulnerabilities. Also better on sands then other units.
  • strong vs most enemies when massed; weak vs skeletons and heavy infandry
  • medium melee attack (blade), medium ranged attack (pierce)

Dune Skirmisher is your fast unit, important in difficult fights against important targets.

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  • good defense in almost any terrain, but low hitpoints
  • lawful, slight vulnerability to blade, pierce and impact attacks
  • strong vs wounded units, mages and healers; weak vs any unit good in melee fighting (grunts, cavalry...)
  • strong melee attack (pierce), weak ranged attack (impact)

Dune Soldier is the Dunefolk version of the grunt or wose. Strong, melee oriented unit for both attack and defense.

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  • good defense only in castles, average in most terrains
  • lawful, slight vulnerability to impact attacks, good against pierce and blade. Can be upgraded into 3 useful units.
  • strong vs saurians, mages, archers; weak vs skeletons, trolls
  • strong melee attack (blade)

Dune Rider is very fast on flat terrain. They are simply horse archers.

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  • good defense in mountains and villages
  • liminal, vulnerability to pierce attacks. Can be upgraded into 3 useful units.
  • strong vs wounded units and drakes; weak vs spearmen, saurians and skeleton archers.
  • average melee attack (impact), strong ranged attack (pierce)

Naga Dirkfang is both melee and ranged attacker, that can be good even on dry lands when leveled up. Both attacks are blade.

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  • good defense in water (50-70%) and swamps
  • neutral, Can be upgraded into 2 more powerful units.
  • strong vs anyone in water; weak vs anyone on dry land
  • average melee attack (blade), average ranged attack (blade)

Starting troops - random opponent

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On the maps with a lot of water, recruit one or even two naga dirkfang in the first turn.

Unlike Rebels, Dunefolk have very limited number of leaders. Some of the level 2 should be very useful, like Dune Captain with leadership. Probably the best possible way is to go for Dune Apothecary, who can heal wounds, but cannot remove poison from friendly units. Some units, like Dune Shieldguard, can be useful only against some enemies. Dune Explorer is your guys, if you need a fast leader for some reason.

General Dunefolk Strategies

Dunefolk is a new faction in Battle for Wesnoth. They have variety of useful units, but you can also mass a lot of their cheap and powerful Dune Rovers to ensure good progress. They have multiple ranged attackers, while some can do a lot of damage in melee combat (Dune Soldiers). Remember, that you can always heal your units, but your Dune Herbalists are very different from other healers, because they can heal themselves. Upgrade at least one to get a powerful level 2 healer.

Dunefolk defend well in mountains, but they are not very mobile there. However, they are good in desert sands and beaches. They can be good against any enemy, if proper strategy is applied. They do not like mages very well, so use your fast horse archers (Dune Riders) to hunt them down on open plains or use Dune Skirmishers to chase them, if they are not well protected from every corner.

Dunefolk have access to healing via herbalists, charge with powerful Dune Cataphracts and together 5 (!) units with skirmisher speciality. Dune Soldiers can became very defensive, very offensive and also very motivating with leadership, if they get to level 2.

Dunefolk have access to blade, pierce and impact attacks, same as any other faction. However, their burners can use fire attack.

Villages

Almost every unit in Dunefolk army is good in defending villages. You need villages to help you with poison, because your healers can cure it only on level 3. Riders can move to enemy villages quickly and use their arrows to harm anyone who will try to capture it back. Universally usable Dune Rovers are the best guardians of the villages.

Dunefolk vs Drakes

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Drakes like fire. Saurians do not like fire at all. Your only unit with fire is terrible against drakes and wonderful against saurians. So, as many others, you have to deal pierce damage to drakes and blade to saurians.

Drakes do a lot of damage and none of your units is resistant to fire or anything else. In comparison, dunefolk units are more "normal", while drakes and saurians have both strenghts and weaknesses. Make sure to use more units than drake player, because in 1v1 their units are more powerful.

Mobile drakes, crashers and augurs will be your enemies in this battle, but they can (same as you) change their tactics if needed. Drakes can use units to exploid your vulnerabilities. You should know, that you have multiple good units against saurians, so enemy will probably use mostly drakes.

Will some drake gliders come to your territory to steal your villages? You bet they will come. Skirmishers and riders are the best way to stop them. Do not forget to use ZOCing with your units.

Burner: Great against saurians. Blade is good, fire is good... but drakes are good against both. So, use them to make sure, your enemy will not use saurians. Or simply make this guys when you see that enemy uses a lot of them.

Herbalist: Good, important and fragile. They will try to kill him and with their offensive capabilities, you will simple need a few of them.

Rover: This is your miracle guy. Good against drakes, solid against saurians and cheap. What else can you need? Much cheaper than Drake Clasher, so if you face them, you must have at least one more unit than your enemy.

Skirmisher: Wounded drake killer, additional damage dealer with pierce damage and a useful specialist. Still, they are not your main fighters and overrecruiting can be bad in many reasons, because their HPs are low. Attack with other units, like rovers, finish with skirmishers. Try to upgrade on of these guys.

Soldier: Strong unit with lots of HP, but only average defenses. If you recruit him, he will not be a primary target and drakes will simply find another targets. You can use them in closed maps to guard important route, but other than that, you should use another units. They are good against saurians.

Rider: Fast unit for village grabbing and provide good ranged attack. Good, very good, but not so much against a combination of clashers and saurians. Do not over-recruit.

Naga Dirkfang: Based on water. They are also good in marshes and can defeat saurians there, so definetly a good unit to have. Almost useless against drakes.


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Dunefolk vs Knalgans

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Terrain denial is the most important aspect of this matchup. His Poachers will be trying to take your forests, while denying his hills and mountains is critical. Note that although you enjoy maximum defence on forests, it is generally preferable to occupy a hill/mountain hex even if there is forest nearby: dwarves have only 30% defence on forest, whereas you have 50% defence on hills. If you occupy forest instead, you will have the same defence as the dwarves—and they’re tougher.

Shamans and Mages shine against the Dwarves. A Shaman in a forest hex has the defense and health of a thief with no physical vulnerabilities, and if she ever slows an Ulfserker you get a free kill - not that her slow is wasted on Fighters or Gryphons.

Speaking of which, another effective strategy is attrition: use your slow to cripple the enemy’s hard hitting melee units, make use of healing to recover from the damage you receive, and feel free to take pot shots at your opponent when you can.

Priority levelups continue to be Druids and Captains. Healing and Leadership greatly enhance the Elves' capabilities; the captain essentially negates the Dwarves' armor. The Knalgans don't have access to these abilities, so they will provide a large advantage.

Shaman: Shamans, as always, are very useful for their healing and their slowing abilities. Gryphons and fighters are the best targets for their slow; whereas guardsmen are much weaker, and you don’t want to risk slowing a thunderer. A slowed ulf is a free kill, but beware that if the shaman fails to hit, she will be vulnerable to counterattack.

Mage: Very useful for finishing off dwarves on good terrain, also effective against gryphons and outlaws. However, beware of ulfs.

Fighter: Good staple unit; you need a couple of these to hold the line and guard your shamans/mages. They are superior to poachers—they deal more damage and, importantly, can grab forest hexes faster—and they are also effective aganinst thunderers and fighters, provided that the latter are slowed. Still, without the backup of shamans and mages these guys will succumb to your opponent’s tougher units.

Archer: Perhaps not as effective in this matchup. You’ll want to focus on tougher and cheaper fighters (which can hold those important hill hexes better). You’ll also be making use of slow a lot; there is less need for the archers’ ranged attacks. Still, 70% defence on forest and 6MP give them some important uses.

Wose: The main use for this guy is attacking thunderers; he is also very effective against slowed gryphons. However, Dwarvish Fighters are cheaper, have much better defence, and deal 7–3 against your wose’s 10–2. Woses are also very slow—they’re not good for terrain denial. A utility unit, no more.

Merman Hunter: This unit is weak, and a gryphon will beat it even in water. Only recruit if there’s a lot of water on the map; and if so, recruit at least 2 or 3 in order to surround a gryphon. If the knalgan player does commit to a water battle, rejoice: your cheap units will tie up his gryphons and eventually deliver victory.

Scout: A weak unit, but may be necessary to grab far-flung villages. Elvish archers deal significantly more damage, and quick ones will double up as scouts; however, the mounted elf’s extremely high mobility (9MP) does sometimes allow it to grab hold of a mountain, which can be very strategically useful.

Dunefolk vs Loyalists

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Your main problem when fighting loyalists is their spearmen. Relatively cheap, relatively tough, solid damage dealers (with a ranged attack and a special ability to boot) spearmen are difficult to defeat without woses. But with woses, the battle changes: it will be the loyalist opponent who will need to find ways to defeat the woses’ massive pierce resistance, high HP, damage and regeneration. Therefore, your tactics will be centred around the wose; your other units will provide the necessary mobility, village holding, and special extras to make up for the woses’ disadvantages. If it’s not already obvious: the wose is slow, and has abysmal defence on villages.

Your enemy will spam a mix of cavalry and mages to deal with your woses, and spearmen (along with horsemen) against your other units. You may also see some heavy infrantry or fencers thrown in. Your prime target will be horsemen, as they are expensive, vulnerable to archers, but extremely dangerous to all of your units (barring the wose of course). Fighting at night is obviously a good idea; at day you should play neither defensively nor offensively, instead making use of forest and slow to survive the loyalist onslaught, and keeping the pressure on your opponent. Remember that your woses are also lawful, and will easily slaughter spearmen/bowmen/HI in the absence of mages and cavalry. The latter can easily be killed by your neutral elves, even at day.

Fighter: Solid unit for the money, with a pretty good melee attack—a strong one will do the same damage as a strong spearman—and a pretty decent ranged attack as well. Your opponent will attempt to beat them with two strategies: either rush at you with spearmen and cavalry, at day, in order to overwhelm your fragile units with sheer force; or they may go down the heavy infantry route. Either strategy will succeed, so you will need other units to counter it. The best use you will generally have for fighters will be to hold villages and attack enemy ranged units (primarily mages).

Archer: Very effective against cavalry, good for attacking spearmen, and difficult to get off forest—mages will hurt themselves trying to kill it. (A dextrous archer may even kill a full health mage, with luck.) This unit is great; the downside is that it’s very vulnerable to horsemen charges, especially outside of forest. Spearmen will also overwhelm them without wose backup.

Shaman: Shamans are useful for their healing, and their ability to slow heavy infantry, spearmen, and horsemen. On forest they even act as frontline units: they will dodge non-magical attacks and counter with slow against mages. The downside is that they’re weak, and you can’t slow every unit your enemy will throw against you.

Mage: Not that effective in this match-up. Mages are useful for attacking heavy infantry (although woses and shamans are perfectly capable of doing that) and have magic. But the archer remains a much better choice: the mage is significantly slower, its attacks aren’t as effective against cavalry, and of course it is both more expensive and more fragile than the elf. Recruit maybe one, no more.

Wose: Against loyalists, this guy is a monster. He destroys spearmen and bowmen; he crushes heavy infantry. Even mages are vulnerable to him—two strikes from a wose will kill a mage, while three hits from a mage will not kill a wose, despite the wose’s grievious weakness to fire. Therefore, the enemy will protect his mages with impact-resistant cavalry; it will be combined arms that brings this unit down. You will need to use your other units to hold villages, destroy cavalry, and make up for this unit’s poor mobility.

Merman Hunter: This unit is okay against the enemy’s merman fighters, and it’s effective against cavalry. Recruit according to the water.

Scout: Useful for its mobility and ranged pierce attacks; its main use will be grabbing villages, and providing the extra hit to kill a cavalryman or mage. That said, they are torn apart by horsemen and spearmen.

Dunefolk vs Northerners

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The Northerner units are your antithesis: tough instead of weak, melee orientated instead of range orientated, and fast where you are slow; slow where you are fast. When fighting them, you need to be aware of their ability to outmaneouvre you on hills and mountains—but conversely, they will struggle to reach forested hexes. Your strategy will require careful use of leadership and unit traits: without them you will not be able to do sufficient damage to kill an orc or troll outright. A strong/dextrous archer/fighter will do 20% more damage over base, and this rises further with leadership. Since grunts have 38 base HP, the extra damage will often mean the difference between a dead grunt and a still-dangerous grunt (to your shamans, mages and archers).

The Northerner units have two special abilities you will need to counter: poison and regeneration. You need to recruit shamans and keep them behind your front lines—that way the assassins’ poison won’t activate. Since poisoned units lose 8HP per turn, while shamans heal only +4HP per turn, this is a good trade-off. As for trolls, the trick is to take out their supporting units first, and then focus your attacks on them en masse.

Elvish Fighter: A staple unit. Their blades will kill orcish archers and assassins, and defend against grunts, wolves and trolls. They are the most cost effective unit in your arsenal; this is important when fighting Northeners, as their units are very economical.

Elvish Archer: Another staple unit. Their arrows will kill any Northerner foe that’s not an assassin or an archer. They are fast; they are hard to take off forest. The only real downside is their low HP, which make them vulnerable outside of good terrain.

Elvish shaman: Their healing is invaluable against poison; their slow finds excellent targets in grunts, trolls and wolves. Low HP remains a problem though.

Elvish Scout: This unit is usually quite crummy, and while its attacks remain rather weak, they serve some very important uses in this matchup. Their extreme mobility often allows them to attack from a fourth hex; this can make the difference between a dead orc and a live one. They are fast enough to grab mountains and deny it from your enemy. They are reasonably effective against enemy wolves, and will harrass most Northerner units with their bow. Still not as good a buy as your other units, but don’t dismiss him either.

Mage: The mage is invaluable for their ability to kill trolls and assassins; grunts and wolves also make great targets. It is often preferable to kill an assassin even if your mage gets poisoned: you can keep the poison from damaging them by placing a shaman next to them, and their ranged attacks will allow them to wound (and kill) even with 1HP. The downside to this unit is that’s very vulnerable—at night it needs to be carefully protected, or even just kept out of the way behind your lines.

Wose: Not the best buy for this matchup. Only recruit him if the enemy goes overboard with trolls—otherwise he is burned by orchish archers and cut down by grunts (and even wolves). His poor mobility and lawful alignment work against him: he’s too slow to press the attack at day, and likewise too slow to retreat at night.

Merman Hunter: Not a bad unit. His throwing spears will harass the enemy’s numerous melee units—sometimes this will even be enough to let one of your land units make the kill, particularly if your merman is the 4th hex attacker. He has two downsides: he fights terribly on land, and his attacks are quite weak. That’s why you should give XP to your landlubbers; it’s much more useful to have a Druid, Captain, Marksman, etc. over a unit that’s only good on water. Beware of assassins’ poison, and float the hunter next to a shaman if he does get poisoned.

Dunefolk vs Dunefolk

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Mirror match is always dangerous. Enemy can use the same units and strategies. Forest is great for both. If you cannot reach a forest hex, try to make sure your opponent will not get there any time soon. Use ZOC to make sure your enemy will not get to the forest hexes. Some units, like woses, can be dangerous, but they can be easily killed with fire. Make a scout or two to know what is your enemy doing.

Fighter: Figter is needed, because he have all the strenghts and still a good price. use them to fight everyone, but you should know, that they can be overpowered by much more expensive mages or (still more expensive) archers.

Mage: Mages are very good for attacking woses. They are also strong against archers. If your enemies does not use woses, this unit is good for only one thing - attacking archers in forests. However fighters are too much of a thread to them.

Wose: Good, if no mages are near. Woses are slow, expensive and vulnerable on flat lands. Woses is so slow, that important forest hexes will be allready captured by your or enemy elves.

Archer: Archers are not very good here. They are weaker then archers in this match, while woses are immune to their arrows. Also mages can defeat them. However, archers are fast and great in forests.

Shaman: Shamans are good with fighters and you need a lot of fighters. Shamans can help your fighters to fight longer and get experience. Also, combination of fighters and shamans can kill mages, woses and cripple everyone else.

Merman Hunter: If there is a lot of water, use them.

Scout: One or two of them are enough to know what your enemy is doing and to capture villages. Also they can prevent enemy from getting to forest hexes. Scouts are weak against pierce attack of fighters, archers, other scouts and mermen hunters.

Dunefolk vs Undead

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The Undead have very specific resistances and vulnerabilities, so many of your units are less useful. However, undead have multiple different units that can be used against you. Fighting dark adepts and skeletons is much different. Skeletons are resiliant to pierce and blade attacks, while dark adepts can fight elves in the forests. Undead can also attack your units with poison, so you need to eliminate all the threats.

Mage: This will be your primary ranged unit. It's one of your most expensive units, but it's worth it for its fire attack. It has a ranged magical attack as well, so you can hit units even when they have good defense. You do have to remember that this unit is lawful, so you have to use it during favorable times, and keep it out of the way when unfavorable...

Shaman: This unit is always helpful, because it has the healing ability. Although it isn't much, it can sometimes save your other units, especially when operated in pairs behind your lines. They also have the Slows ability, which can be used against their Skeletons. You can also slow Ghouls, however it won't be as effective because the Ghoul's main weapon is Poison, not its attacks. Their weapons are impact, too, so they'll do more damage then normal...

Wose: Even though Woses look awesome against the undead, with their high damage impact attack and regeneration, fight the urge to spam them. They're so slow that a good player will be able to outmaneuver you and kill you easily in the night.

Fighter: These guys have a blade attack and a secondary pierce attack. Against undead, you want a couple for village holding and damaging Dark Adepts, however don't go overboard with them.

Archer: This unit has a good pierce attack and a decent blade attack. Normally this unit is excellent, but against undead he doesn't do near as much damage. The only reason to recruit this unit would be for it's high movement points.

Scout. Don't recruit this unit, spend your gold elsewhere.

Hunter: This unit normally has fairly bad attacks, and then since they're both pierce, the undead's resistances make them even worse. They can be used to quickly grab water villages and hold them, but other than that they're just cruddy against Undead...

Dunefolk vs Dunefolk (1.15 and later)

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Dunefolk is similar to Dunefolk in many ways. So, gameplay might be very similar to playing rebels. Dunefolk is very dangerous in desert hexes, but they are good in other terrains as well. Dunefolk can use their cavalry, as well as other units against you. Some of their units are not very dangerous against rebels, while others can kill your woses with fire or defend important hexes against your attacks.

Shaman: Slowing down enemies is useful, mostly for your fighters. And you will need a lot of them. They can also be used against Dune soldiers and rowers. Also shamans can be useful to get to the enemy healers.

Archer: Pierce attacks are good, but Dunefolk is not vulnerable against pierce. So, while you can make archers on maps with lots of gold, other units can work better. However, archers can be useful in fighting strong, melee oriented soldiers, but pierce is not very harmful for them.

Fighter: Elvish fighters is your main unit in this match. They can fight everyone and their cost is good. Only few units, like dune soldiers, are more powerful in battle.

Mage: Expensive, with good ranged attack. You can use them to focus fire on important units. Mages are a priority target for rowers and skirmishers.

Wose: Good, if enemy does not use burners. If your enemy find out, that you use woses, he will surely make some of them.

Mermen Hunter: Use them, if there is a lot of water hexes. Your mermen hunters are very similar to naga dirkfangs.

Scout: Use them to grab villages and quickly move through difficult terrain. Dune riders are very similar and will try to do the same.


Factions of the Default Era

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