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Egallager: /* Examplenoth */ link cleanup

2023-05-03T04:23:57Z

‎Examplenoth: link cleanup

Ken Oh at 16:51, 19 September 2010

2010-09-19T16:51:07Z

Ken Oh at 14:34, 19 September 2010

2010-09-19T14:34:49Z

Ken Oh at 20:25, 12 June 2010

2010-06-12T20:25:26Z

Ken Oh at 02:09, 20 May 2010

2010-05-20T02:09:44Z

Boru: /* Level 0 units for all mainline units */

2010-05-02T20:40:30Z

‎Level 0 units for all mainline units

Ken Oh at 19:24, 29 September 2009

2009-09-29T19:24:42Z

Ken Oh at 21:06, 11 September 2009

2009-09-11T21:06:43Z

Ken Oh: /* WesSaga (none released, Wesnoth 1.5.8) */

2009-06-24T16:06:19Z

‎WesSaga (none released, Wesnoth 1.5.8)

Ken Oh: updated

2009-06-24T15:54:22Z

updated

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 ''Concept'':
-I always thought the WML Wiki would be a little better if it had more examples. This is one thing I've done in the past: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WML_Abilities but I think we could go further with this. It's a shame I'm too busy writing WML that I'm going to actually use to even update the link above.
+I always thought the WML Wiki would be a little better if it had more examples. This is one thing I've done in the past: [[WML_Abilities]] but I think we could go further with this. It's a shame I'm too busy writing WML that I'm going to actually use to even update the link above.
 == You're Making Up WML ==

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 ''Result'':
-I have made 3 factions (Pirates, Bandits of units leveled 1 and 2 and, with the help of many others, created a unique ability every unit. The level 1 units each have either an ability or weapon special that effects what it can do. The level 2 units have some sort of leadership or aura effect that alter adjacent units.
+I have made 3 factions (Pirates, Bandits and Knights of units leveled 1 and 2 and, with the help of many others, created a unique ability every unit. The level 1 units each have either an ability or weapon special that effects what it can do. The level 2 units have some sort of leadership or aura effect that alter adjacent units.
 ''Today'':
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 I lost all of Marhault's Dominion when my laptop crashed about a year ago. I've been able to rebuild most of what I had before plus I reduced the map nearly half the size. Sending a high-level unit on a quest only to have it gone for 20 turns was simply unacceptable.
-== WesSaga (none released, Wesnoth 1.5.8) ==
+== WesSaga (none released) ==
 ''Objectives'':
 [http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=23280 This is an RPG I would love to see.] WesSaga is how I plan to fulfill my own request.
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 Wesband is moving right along, so I'm not working on this so much. When Wesband is mostly done with, I'll get back to this. Of course, any work I do with Modular RPG while working on Wesband will always help this project.
-However, I'm a little concerned about the viability of this project. The main problem is that I want masses of enemies to act on their turns. This may lead to too much time between player turns.
+However, I'm a little concerned about the viability of this project. The main problem is that I want masses of enemies to act on their turns. This may lead to too much time between player turns. I think when I do try to make this, I will start very small, in both concept and mapping, and move on from there.
 == Assassin in the Forest (v2, Wesnoth 1.6.5) ==
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 ''Concept'':
-This is a very old idea that I came up with: Wesnoth with a diplomatic slant. Majorly inspired from the Romance of the Three Kingdoms games, the map would be divided into regions that could be owned. The computer AI would mostly enforce this. Diplomatic arrangements would set up the AI's assessments of you as a player and a nation. Each AI would see your perceived strength, threat and trustworthiness (amongst other factors). And, while each AI would try to advance their own cause, they would constantly try to balance the line of not being too aggressive. Basically, if a player tried to play like you do in vanilla Wesnoth, the FFA way of doing things, that player would be perceived as highly threatening and not worthy of trust, and thus would get ganged-up on by the AI. However, even if the player plays nice with the other remaining sides but amasses a ton of power, the threat level gets too high and the remaining sides would have to ally to stay alive. Winning wouldn't be as simple as picking off each enemy one at a time. The main problem I have in the concept is whether or not fog should be enabled. Being able to hide things from other sides would add a lot, but having absolutely no info of the enemy wouldn't work at all. Other ideas that came to mind: Spies, which could be invisible to enemies. Diplomats, which would stay in allied side terrain and benefit them somehow.
+This is a very old idea that I came up with: Wesnoth with a diplomatic slant. Majorly inspired from the Romance of the Three Kingdoms games, the map would be divided into regions that could be owned. The computer AI would mostly enforce this. Diplomatic arrangements would set up the AI's assessments of you as a player and a nation. Each AI would see your perceived strength, threat and trustworthiness (amongst other factors). And, while each AI would try to advance their own cause, they would constantly try to balance the line of not being too aggressive. Basically, if a player tried to play like you do in vanilla Wesnoth, the FFA way of doing things, that player would be perceived as highly threatening and not worthy of trust, and thus would get ganged-up on by the AI. However, even if the player plays nice with the other remaining sides but amasses a ton of power, the threat level gets too high and the remaining sides would have to ally to stay alive. Winning wouldn't be as simple as picking off each enemy one at a time. The main problem I have in the concept is whether or not fog should be enabled. Being able to hide things from other sides would add a lot, but having absolutely no info of the enemy wouldn't work at all. Other ideas that came to mind: Spies, which could be invisible to enemies. Diplomats, which would stay in allied side terrain and benefit them somehow. The other major issue is how to make AI adhere to the rules that it's going to set for everyone else.

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	http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=27732		http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=27732
	http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=429082#p429082		http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=429082#p429082
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		+	== The High Seas: Full Sail (none released, Wesnoth 1.7.x) ==
		+
		+	''Objectives'':
		+	During getting bogged down coding Wesband, I started thinking about another project, a way to expand the concept of Bob_the_Mighy's The High Seas. What I wanted to do is make every hex be able to have a larger representation. It would be like TL's Imperium mod http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=21096 . There would be overworld units (usually ships) and then zoomed-in spaces where the actual battle takes place. That way, ships could connect and units could board during naval battles. Another inspiration is Ultima Exodus: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zeqtPE3M1ro/S32fF71Q8zI/AAAAAAAABxU/s65iNbRO0aU/s1600-h/ship1.png http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zeqtPE3M1ro/S32fO9lvNqI/AAAAAAAABxc/rcb6KjWnae8/s1600-h/ship2.png
		+
		+	''Result'':
		+	I built some maps and some prototype ships and came up with a bunch of concepts. My favorite was how a kraken could attack ships directly, on the overworld view, but then tentacles could try to grab sailors and drag them into the sea. Another key element that would represent naval scenarios is how ships could view further than their movement, and all viewing would be uniform (something like 12 hexes?). Another improvement is to root it in Wesnoth's world. I made a map that was the west coast of the Great Continent and extended west to the Green Isle (now over-run by pirate Liches). The "era" would be before the fall of Wesnoth, when naval tech got to the point where they were able to rediscover the Green Isle.
		+
		+	''Today'':
		+	I ran into some problems with how all this would work with Wesnoth's gameplay. Most of all, how hexes would connect to each other. I can't even remember now what the problem was, but I decided I had recharged my batteries enough for Wesband. I also realized how great a project Wesband is, and that I should really finish it.
		+
		+	== Diplomatic-noth (concept) ==
		+
		+	''Concept'':
		+	This is a very old idea that I came up with: Wesnoth with a diplomatic slant. Majorly inspired from the Romance of the Three Kingdoms games, the map would be divided into regions that could be owned. The computer AI would mostly enforce this. Diplomatic arrangements would set up the AI's assessments of you as a player and a nation. Each AI would see your perceived strength, threat and trustworthiness (amongst other factors). And, while each AI would try to advance their own cause, they would constantly try to balance the line of not being too aggressive. Basically, if a player tried to play like you do in vanilla Wesnoth, the FFA way of doing things, that player would be perceived as highly threatening and not worthy of trust, and thus would get ganged-up on by the AI. However, even if the player plays nice with the other remaining sides but amasses a ton of power, the threat level gets too high and the remaining sides would have to ally to stay alive. Winning wouldn't be as simple as picking off each enemy one at a time. The main problem I have in the concept is whether or not fog should be enabled. Being able to hide things from other sides would add a lot, but having absolutely no info of the enemy wouldn't work at all. Other ideas that came to mind: Spies, which could be invisible to enemies. Diplomats, which would stay in allied side terrain and benefit them somehow.

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-== Wesband (v0.2.3, Wesnoth 1.6.5) ==
+== Wesband (v0.4.0, Wesnoth 1.8.2) ==
 ''Objectives'':
-Wesband is a Wesnoth version of a roguelike game (specifically Zangband) being developed by Dovolente. Dov made an excellent dungeon generator that connects to an overworld, and he chose my Modular RPG Era as what he wants to connect with it. This was great news for me, who wanted to develop the era but wouldn't be bothered to create a campaign to showcase its features.
+Wesband is a Wesnoth version of a roguelike game (specifically Zangband) being developed by Dovolente. Dov made an excellent dungeon generator that connects to an overworld, and he chose my Modular RPG Era as what he wants to connect with it. This was great news for me, who wanted to develop the era but wouldn't be bothered to create a campaign to showcase its features. In the end, I hope to make a fun game that really hasn't been done before: a multiplayer, turn-based dungeon crawler.
 ''Result'':
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 ''Today'':
-Wesband has gotten some fair amount of player attention. Exasperation and I have made great progress and the game is pretty playable now, as single player or with 1 or 2 friends. We've started to expand the magic system to include a mana system and non-combat spells. We've got more ideas than time to code them, so expect cool things to come.
+Wesband has changed a lot under the surface. I've taken NPCs and structured their internal workings just like PCs. This results in a lot of flexibility, variability and NPCs can even level past their normal max level while still gaining appropriate skills and stats. Exasperation has included a lot of Lua functions, new to Wesnoth, which make a lot of things available that were once impossible. For one, there is a chat output that gives the players information without making them click to clear it. Exasperation has also, employing Lua, made the dungeon creation faster and the rousing code is awesome. Players only rouse enemies once they "see" the player or his henchmen. This results in much faster gameplay than before. Oh, and almost as an afterthought, Exasperation expanded the player sides to 4 now.
 [http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=21234 Wesband]

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	''Today'':		''Today'':
	I'm pretty much done with this. It was a fun distraction. If anyone wants to do anything with it, be my guest.		I'm pretty much done with this. It was a fun distraction. If anyone wants to do anything with it, be my guest.
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		+
		+
		+	== Examplenoth ==
		+
		+	''Concept'':
		+	I always thought the WML Wiki would be a little better if it had more examples. This is one thing I've done in the past: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WML_Abilities but I think we could go further with this. It's a shame I'm too busy writing WML that I'm going to actually use to even update the link above.
		+
		+
		+	== You're Making Up WML ==
		+
		+	''Concept'':
		+	Every once in a while, a new user posts WML with completely made-up syntax in the WML Workshop. A collection of these would be funny (if nothing else), but the page could be useful as a guide to help those users who post such things understand the problem and stop doing it.
		+
		+	Anyway, here are a few links to get me started:
		+	http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=29468
		+	http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=27732
		+	http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=429082#p429082

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 ''Objectives'':
-We have units like Peasant, Bowman and the newly-added Ruffian in mainline, but what is a Mage before he really has the experience to become a full level 1 unit? I made some level 0 units for Marhault's Dominion and, when that was lost, I wanted to take that vision further. I decided to make those units in order to flesh out towns in RPG scenarios.
+We have units like Peasant, Woodsman and the newly-added Ruffian in mainline, but what is a Mage before he really has the experience to become a full level 1 unit? I made some level 0 units for Marhault's Dominion and, when that was lost, I wanted to take that vision further. I decided to make those units in order to flesh out towns in RPG scenarios.
 ''Result'':

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	However, I'm a little concerned about the viability of this project. The main problem is that I want masses of enemies to act on their turns. This may lead to too much time between player turns.		However, I'm a little concerned about the viability of this project. The main problem is that I want masses of enemies to act on their turns. This may lead to too much time between player turns.
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		+	== Assassin in the Forest (v2, Wesnoth 1.6.5) ==
		+
		+	''Objectives'':
		+	Elvish Pillager once made a scenario that I've never played, but I heard about it from someone who bumped [http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=27143 a really old thread]. The concept seemed fun and easy to do, plus I needed a break from Wesband. (I tried to get his blessing, but he doesn't answer PMs and hasn't been in the irc room since a month of writing this).
		+
		+	''Result'':
		+	I took part of one morning and made it with a beefed up Assassin. Here are some extra abilities that he has:
		+	-conceals
		+	-nightstalk
		+	-sneak (use no more than half of max moves to stay hidden)
		+	-slash&dash (can use remaining moves after attacking with melee, each hit with melee adds 1 move)
		+	-remaining ammo (if you kill your opponent with your throwing daggers, any strikes left can be used and you can attack again).
		+
		+	It's kind of fun, though there are some problems: you're a little useless at the beginning, as the AI destroys each other quicker than you can do anything, and the only real thing you can do is make sure one leader doesn't get so strong that you won't be able to beat him by yourself.
		+
		+	''Today'':
		+	I'm pretty much done with this. It was a fun distraction. If anyone wants to do anything with it, be my guest.

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-== Wesband + Modular RPG Era (0.1.10a + 0.2.10a, Wesnoth 1.6.3) ==
+== Wesband (v0.2.3, Wesnoth 1.6.5) ==
 ''Objectives'':
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 ''Today'':
-Wesband has gotten some fair amount of player attention. The combat and dungeon generation systems are nearing completion. From here, the next step is making a magic system similar to what we see in roguelikes.
+Wesband has gotten some fair amount of player attention. Exasperation and I have made great progress and the game is pretty playable now, as single player or with 1 or 2 friends. We've started to expand the magic system to include a mana system and non-combat spells. We've got more ideas than time to code them, so expect cool things to come.
 [http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=21234 Wesband]
 == Level 0 units for all mainline units ==
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 ''Today'':
-Progress is halted mainly because of work on Wesband+MODRPG. It will continue as a fun break from the heavy coding of my other projects.
+Progress is halted mainly because of work on Wesband. It will continue as a fun break from the heavy coding of my other projects.
 [http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=19484 Additional level 0s general thread]
 [http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=19510 Additional level 0s art thread]
-== Modular RPG Era (v0.1.11, Wesnoth 1.4.1) ==
+== Modular RPG Era (v0.2.3, currently integrated in Wesband) ==
 ''Objectives'':
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 ''Result'':
-Most mainline human and troll units are emulated. Units can gain skill points, gain levels and buy from shops.
+The Modular RPG era system has been integrated within Wesband. There were problems with keeping it as an era in a multi-scenario campaign, and it just became too complex to maintain for other users' RPG scenarios. If I ever get around to making my WesSaga idea, I can easily lift all of the Modular RPG content and settings into Wesband.
 ''Today'':
-I've come a long way with the era but there is still plenty left to do.  Find the latest version on the campaign server or here: [http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17661 Modular RPG Era]
+As far as an era goes, MODRPG is incredibly robust. There are many different items, weapons, abilities, weapon specials and spells from which to choose. Most exciting are all the different races. With humans, elves, dwarves, trolls, saurians, goblins, and orcs, we've included every major land-dwelling Wesnothian race except for drakes. We're really just waiting on new drake sprite art to be finished before we adjust the sprites and try to include them.
 == Living Villages (v1a, Wesnoth 1.3.10) ==

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	''Today'':		''Today'':
	Wesband is moving right along, so I'm not working on this so much. When Wesband is mostly done with, I'll get back to this. Of course, any work I do with Modular RPG while working on Wesband will always help this project.		Wesband is moving right along, so I'm not working on this so much. When Wesband is mostly done with, I'll get back to this. Of course, any work I do with Modular RPG while working on Wesband will always help this project.
		+
		+	However, I'm a little concerned about the viability of this project. The main problem is that I want masses of enemies to act on their turns. This may lead to too much time between player turns.