Talk:FormulaAI - Revision history

Beetlenaut at 21:31, 12 April 2009

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2008-03-19T19:43:09Z

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Singalen: Criticism

2008-03-19T19:40:36Z

Criticism

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=== Criticism ===
Sorry gentlemen, it's fun, but as for me:
* WML syntax is awkward for programming; only sample I can name, [http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15764&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15 Chesslike] AI, is 24K in Python and will be three times longer in WML-like language;
* It would be difficult to debug without a proper IDE;
* It needs a sort of standard library;
* New implementation is subject to bugs, syntax changes and bad performance;
* How many AIs are there and will there be notably more if you add another language no one knows, given all the mentioned factors?

What about considering [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lua_(programming_language) Lua] as an alternative scripting language?
Porting to is could be another SoC option.
One could even dream about SoC idea - converting WML to Lua.

=== Stupid jokes ===
Doesn't it remind:
''"Any sufficiently complicated C or Fortran program contains an ad-hoc, informally-specified bug-ridden slow implementation of half of Common Lisp."'' - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_programming_language#Quotations Philip Greenspun].

With a respect for you and your work,
: [[User:Singalen|Singalen]] 15:40, 19 March 2008 (EDT)

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		+	=== map != map ===
		+	You have a data structure called "map", but "map" already means something else in BfW. In fact, there is a variable with that name as well. To avoid confusion, I suggest renaming that data structure to "dictionary", "keyed list", or something similar. (At least on this page. I don't mean in your code.)

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 * New implementation is subject to bugs, syntax changes and bad performance;
 * How many AIs are there and will there be notably more if you add another language no one knows, given all the mentioned factors?
 What about considering [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lua_(programming_language) Lua] as an alternative scripting language?
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 Additionally, I'd recommend to use "wishful thinking" to prototype simplest algorythm in this syntax and try to evaluate the work. Maybe start with porting Chesslike AI.
 === Stupid jokes ===

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 === Criticism ===
 Sorry gentlemen, it's fun, but as for me:
-* WML syntax is awkward for programming; only sample I can name, [http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15764&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15 Chesslike] AI, is 24K in Python and will be three times longer in WML-like language;
+* WML syntax is awkward for programming; only rather simple sample I can name, [http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15764&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15 Chesslike] AI, is 24K in Python and will be three times longer in WML-like language;
 * It would be difficult to debug without a proper IDE;
 * It needs a sort of standard library;
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 Porting to is could be another SoC option.
 One could even dream about SoC idea - converting WML to Lua.
 === Stupid jokes ===