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Schnobs: /* Elvish Princess */

2024-04-19T21:21:59Z

‎Elvish Princess

Schnobs: /* The Pursuit */ - rewritten, organized by directions / objectives

2024-04-17T21:03:31Z

‎The Pursuit: - rewritten, organized by directions / objectives

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Kylix: /* Showdown */

2022-08-29T17:35:53Z

‎Showdown

Kylix: /* Get the Gold */

2022-08-29T17:34:49Z

‎Get the Gold

Kylix: /* Stolen Gold */

2022-08-29T17:32:04Z

‎Stolen Gold

Kylix: /* Stolen Gold */

2022-08-29T17:30:47Z

‎Stolen Gold

Revolting peasant: Formatting

2022-02-11T20:04:18Z

Formatting

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Octalot: /* Clearing The Mines */ Hints on grabbing the chokepoints

2019-09-10T19:57:59Z

‎Clearing The Mines: Hints on grabbing the chokepoints

Octalot: Update the turn-limits for there only being 3 difficulty levels

2019-09-09T14:09:51Z

Update the turn-limits for there only being 3 difficulty levels

Octalot: /* Clearing The Mines */ Chokepoints on the 1.14 map

2019-09-08T17:16:47Z

‎Clearing The Mines: Chokepoints on the 1.14 map

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 * '''Lose if:''' Tallin, Ro'Arthian or Ro'Sothian dies.
 * '''Turns:''' 21/18/15 (Challenging / Difficult / Nightmare).
-* '''Starting units:''' Tallin, Camerin, Abhai, Krash, Father Morvin, Sister Thera, Elenia, Stalrag and a supporter.
+* '''Starting units:''' Tallin, Camerin, Abhai, Krash, Father Morvin, Sister Thera, Elenia, Stalrag, Ro’Arthian, Ro’Sothian, and a supporter.
-In this one it may be best to go straight at Bitterhold with a small group of hardened veterans—you need to be in there fast, especially on high difficulty levels where the turn limit is tight. Camerin and the Rod of Justice will be particularly helpful here.  Your objective, getting a unit onto the cage at the center of the castle, may be best accomplished with a flyer (a Gryphon recruited specifically for this purpose can be useful) once you've chewed a few holes in the inner ring of defenders.
+In this one it may be best to go straight at Bitterhold with a small group of hardened veterans: you need to be in there fast, especially on high difficulty levels where the turn limit is tight. Camerin and the Rod of Justice will be particularly helpful here.  Your objective, getting a unit onto the cage at the center of the castle, may be best accomplished with a flyer (a Gryphon recruited specifically for this purpose can be useful) once you've chewed a few holes in the inner ring of defenders.
-Send your White Magi, your Liches, and Tallin south-east to assault the fortress and distract the troops. Then, send another force with your Druid due west to sneak around the west side of the camp. This pincer movement should siphon off most of the defenders from the fortress. When you're ready to make a move for the princess, punch through to an inner village with a Lich and flank him with the Magi, which will distract a ton of the fortress' guards and provide an opportunity to grab Eryssa.
+The enemy fortress looks daunting, but there is no leader inside, and the defenders will be quite eager to sally forth and meet you in the open. You can defeat those easily, then take up a defensible position inside and wait for the next defenders to come to you. Alternatively or additionally, your mutually resurrecting white mages may expose themselves, soaking up the bulk of the counterattacks.
-Either way, you also have to send a segment of your army to the south-east, to handle the enemy leader. Abhai (the Spectre) and your Rod-bearer can usually pin down the Blue Orc leader to the East and kill him as early as Turn 2 (if Zlex is your Rod-bearer).  This is useful as it prevents him harrying your flank, and with a little support from your main force, gives you a second attack point, which helps clear the defenders quickly. Abhai can potentially even sneak in and nab the princess once you've mopped up the Blue team's recruits.
+You have to get there first, though. The enemy leader has lots of money and will mostly recruit cheap level-1 types. No match for your army, and on easiest difficulty you can defeat the army first, then storm the fortress later. On higher difficulty, however, the enemy can recruit more while you have less time: you need to break through and assassinate the leader in his keep, quickly, or the map will be awash with enemies impeding your every move.
 You should be making an effort to keep your loyal units alive, but just in case, if you plan to rescue Eryssa (the kidnapped Elvish Sorceress) you should still have Elenia with you, otherwise she (Eryssa) won't stay with you, and the story for the rest of the campaign accommodates to this. If you don't rescue her, you just skip the next scenario (''Introductions'').

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 ===Showdown===
 * '''Objectives:''' Defeat all enemies.
-* '''Lose if:''' Tallin, Ro'Arthian, Ro'Sothian or Hamel dies or turns run out.
+* '''Lose if:''' Tallin, Ro'Arthian, Ro'Sothian, Hamel or Eryssa dies or turns run out.
 * '''Turns:''' Unlimited.
 * '''Starting units:''' Tallin, Camerin, Abhai, Father Morvin, Sister Thera, Elenia, Stalrag, a supporter, Krash (as team leader) and Eryssa (as team leader).
-* '''Other:''' If you have recovered your gold on the previous scenario, it gets split into three equal parts, and assigned to your three leaders (Tallin, Krash and Eryssa).
+* '''Other:''' If you have recovered your gold on the previous scenario, it gets split into three equal parts, and assigned to your three leaders (Tallin, Krash and Eryssa/Ro'Sothian).
 Pull out all the stops, because this is it. The wall is defended by level 3 orcs (Warlords and Slurbows). You'll want to draw them off the walls before engaging them, they're dangerous enough as it is without the fortification bonus; hanging a unit or two just within their engagement range will do it. Because there are so many orcs, you need to be especially careful about neither leaving units isolated nor presenting unanchored flanks for them to swarm around (the drakes, in particular, should fort up in the northern camp until they've thinned out their attackers considerably). Get to the edge of the moat and then cycle in fresh units and expand along the edge of the moat. The enemy will probably swarm towards Tallin's units. Don't try and breakthrough. Just be content to kill the units that enter the moat.

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 ===Get the Gold===
 * '''Objectives:''' Defeat the orcs.
-* '''Lose if:''' Tallin, Ro'Arthian or Ro'Sothian dies or turns run out.
+* '''Lose if:''' Tallin, Ro'Arthian, Ro'Sothian or Eryssa dies or turns run out.
 * '''Turns:''' 35/30/25 (Challenging / Difficult / Nightmare).
 * '''Starting units:''' Tallin, Camerin, Abhai,  Father Morvin, Sister Thera, Elenia, Stalrag, a supporter, Krash (as team leader) and Eryssa (as team leader).
 * '''Other:''' Save Sisal if at all possible. If you do, you get your gold from "The Pursuit" back.
 The primary challenge in this scenario is trying to save Sisal, and though it is not stated that Sisal's survival is essential, you do not get back the gold that you earned in "The Pursuit" if she dies. You really, really want that gold. Setting her side's behavior (with right-click) to "defensive" is usually enough to make her stall the orcs successfully until you can either get quick reinforcements to her, or defeat the enemy leader.

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 Using your first turn recalls, establish a defensive line on the line of hills in the middle of the map at the top, putting the Shyde in the forest. Wait out the Green trolls' charge, then counterattack, bringing the Spectre and possibly the Sorceress round to help. The green troll should be on the way out around the time Krash arrives. One of the White Mages provides healing up here (if you aren't sending them on a kamikaze mission to the south).
-The Lich and 2 or 3 other dwarves (healthy/resilient if possible) should hold the edge of the hills on the west side of the map, keeping them clear for Krash's arrival. They shouldn't kill any Whelps that oppose them, but take out Rocklobbers and Grunts for as little return damage as possible. Use ranged attacks in preference to melee, apart from if the Lich needs some health back. Tallin should take and hold the village in the middle when he's finished with the Blue trolls, and provide leadership. The second White Mage stays near the base, and will resurrect there when killed, providing a wonderful distraction to up to 8 trolls per turn. Krash's arrival should happen around the time that the troops from the Green troll attack are freed up - sweep all of the remaining trolls southwards. Krash and company should kill the Black leader, and the Elves and Spectre will take care of Purple around the time the Brown Elf team arrives. Good for a huge gold bonus, but requires a very aggressive start and risks losing a couple of high level units.
+The Lich and 2 or 3 other dwarves (healthy/resilient if possible) should hold the edge of the hills on the west side of the map, keeping them clear for Krash's arrival. They shouldn't kill any Whelps that oppose them, but take out Rocklobbers and Grunts for as little return damage as possible. Use ranged attacks in preference to melee, apart from if the Lich needs some health back. Tallin should take and hold the village in the middle when he's finished with the Blue trolls, and provide leadership. The second White Mage stays near the base, and will resurrect there when killed, providing a wonderful distraction to up to 8 trolls per turn. Krash's arrival should happen around the time that the troops from the Green troll attack are freed up - sweep all of the remaining trolls southwards. Krash and company should kill the Black leader, and the Elves and Spectre will take care of Purple around the time Hidel's team/Himadrin arrives. Good for a huge gold bonus, but requires a very aggressive start and risks losing a couple of high level units.
 '''Alternate strategy:''' Recall nine or ten veterans and linger up around where his camp

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 * '''Lose if:''' Tallin, Ro'Arthian or Ro'Sothian dies.
 * '''Turns:''' 36/36/36 (Challenging / Difficult / Nightmare).
-* '''Starting units:''' Tallin, Camerin, Abhai, Krash, Father Morvin, Sister Thera, Elenia, Stalrag, Eryssa and a supporter.
+* '''Starting units:''' Tallin, Camerin, Abhai, Krash, Father Morvin, Sister Thera, Elenia, Stalrag, Eryssa (if friendly) and a supporter.
 You'll have two problems in this scenario.  One is lots and lots and lots of trolls.  The other is that Krash is going to fly off and recruit level-one drakes to help you, but if they get swarmed by all the level-two trolls they're not going to live long.  Krash's camp will materialize in the mountains near the map-edge west of your camp; the house at edge of board will be one hex NW of his tent square. Don't do anything in the beginning with Krash except grab villages. He leaves on turn 2, only to return on turn 7.

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 The second option is to farm the Ghouls for experience. You've got lots and lots of dwarves, right?  Why not have fun with them? Surround the water with dwarfs on all sides, and wait for turn 21.  You'll lose a few dwarfs, but you'll gain a lot of experience, too. Be careful of the Lich, who will attack when you get close. You don't want to kill him until most of the Ghouls are dead, so it's best to just put up with him (and try not to move any high-level units where he can get at them).
-Comment (Wesnoth 1.14 or later): The map has been redrawn, with chokepoints in the entrance passageways; in each direction there are two chokepoints with some villages between them, the undead will occupy the village areas in turn 3 (northwards) and turns 3-4 (eastwards). The passage northwards has bridges on your side of that area, which aren't a chokepoint for bats and where your dwarves have only 30% def, it's probably worth pushing north as quickly as possible. The chokepoints eastwards are wider, with solid rock terrain underfoot.
+Comment (Wesnoth 1.14 or later): The map has been redrawn, with chokepoints in the entrance passageways; in each direction there are two chokepoints with some villages between them, the undead will occupy these village areas in turn 3 (northwards) and turns 3-4 (eastwards). The passage northwards has bridges on your side of that area, which aren't a chokepoint for bats and where your dwarves have only 30% def; the chokepoints eastwards are wider with solid rock terrain underfoot, but in both cases you want to get control as quick as possible. Camerin (and some backup) should move north of the bridges during turn 2, and to the east Hamel should be in the village area in turn 4.
 Comment (Nightmare): Finishing before turn 21 or even surrounding all the water by that time looks very much impossible, however even if you only took out the two leaders on the western edge of the map until turn 21 it is very well possible to kill all those Ghouls and still receive a handy gold bonus. Ghouls are scared of levelled thugs and dwarf fighters, which makes "controlling" them pretty easy.

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 * Objective: Defeat the orc leaders.
 * Lose if: Tallin dies or turns run out.
-* Turns: 51/41/31/26 (easy/medium/hard/nightmare).
+* Turns: 41/31/26 (challenging/difficult/nightmare).
 * Starting units: Tallin and Zlex, a loyal peasant.
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 ** Clear the caves by defeating all enemy leaders.
 * Lose if: Tallin or Hamel dies or turns run out.
-* Turns: 60/55/50/45 (easy/medium/hard/nightmare).
+* Turns: 55/50/45 (challenging/difficult/nightmare).
 * Starting units: Tallin and a supporter (typically Zlex, unless you lose him).
 * Other: Find Camerin the Arch Mage in the northernmost village.
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 ** Defeat the wolves.
 * Lose if: Tallin or Hamel dies or turns run out.
-* Turns: 40/36/30/24 (easy/medium/hard/nightmare).
+* Turns: 36/30/24 (challenging/difficult/nightmare).
 * Starting units: Tallin, Hamel, Camerin and a supporter.
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 * Objective: Clear the mines by defeating all enemy leaders.
 * Lose if: Tallin or Hamel dies or turns run out.
-* Turns: 85/75/65/55 (easy/medium/hard/nightmare).
+* Turns: 65/55/45 (challenging/difficult/nightmare).
 * Starting units: Tallin, Hamel, Camerin, a supporter and a couple of veteran dwarves.
 * Other: LOTS of ghouls show up on turn 21.
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 ** Resist until the end of turns.
 * Lose if: Tallin dies or turns run out.
-* Turns: 18/18/18/18 (easy/medium/hard/nightmare)
+* Turns: 18/18/18 (challenging/difficult/nightmare).
 * Starting units: Tallin, Camerin, Abhai, Krash, Father Morvin, Sister Thera, Elenia and a supporter.
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 * Objectives: Capture the liches and save Stalrag.
 * Lose if: Tallin or Stalrag dies or turns run out.
-* Turns: 30/25/20/15 (easy/medium/hard/nightmare).
+* Turns: 25/20/15 (challenging/difficult/nightmare).
 * Starting units: Tallin, Camerin, Abhai, Krash, Father Morvin, Sister Thera, Elenia and a supporter
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 ** Rescue the princess (special bonus).
 * Lose if: Tallin, Ro'Arthian or Ro'Sothian dies.
-* Turns: 24/21/18/15 (easy/medium/hard/nightmare).
+* Turns: 21/18/15 (challenging/difficult/nightmare).
 * Starting units: Tallin, Camerin, Abhai, Krash, Father Morvin, Sister Thera, Elenia, Stalrag and a supporter.
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 * Objective: Move Tallin to the northern signpost.
 * Lose if: Tallin, Ro'Arthian or Ro'Sothian dies or turns run out.
-* Turns: 24/21/18/15 (easy/medium/hard/nightmare).
+* Turns: 21/18/15 (challenging/difficult/nightmare).
 * Starting units: Tallin, Camerin, Abhai, Krash, Father Morvin, Sister Thera, Elenia, Stalrag, Eryssa and a supporter.
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 ** Resist until time runs out.
 * Lose if: Tallin, Ro'Arthian or Ro'Sothian dies.
-* Turns: 36/36/36/36 (easy/medium/hard/nightmare).
+* Turns: 36/36/36 (challenging/difficult/nightmare).
 * Starting units: Tallin, Camerin, Abhai, Krash, Father Morvin, Sister Thera, Elenia, Stalrag, Eryssa and a supporter.
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 * Objective: Defeat the enemy leaders.
 * Lose if: Tallin, Ro'Arthian or Ro'Sothian dies or turns run out.
-* Turns: 56/53/50/47 (easy/medium/hard/nightmare).
+* Turns: 53/50/47 (challenging/difficult/nightmare).
 * Starting units: Tallin, Camerin, Abhai, Father Morvin, Sister Thera, Elenia, Stalrag, Eryssa, a Gryphon, a supporter and Krash (as a team leader).
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 * Objectives: Defeat the orcs.
 * Lose if: Tallin, Ro'Arthian or Ro'Sothian dies or turns run out.
-* Turns: 40/35/30/25 (easy/medium/hard/nightmare).
+* Turns: 35/30/25 (challenging/difficult/nightmare).
 * Starting units: Tallin, Camerin, Abhai,  Father Morvin, Sister Thera, Elenia, Stalrag, a supporter, Krash (as team leader) and Eryssa (as team leader).
 * Other: Save Sisal if at all possible. If you do, you get your gold from "The Pursuit" back.

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	The second option is to farm the Ghouls for experience. You've got lots and lots of dwarves, right? Why not have fun with them? Surround the water with dwarfs on all sides, and wait for turn 21. You'll lose a few dwarfs, but you'll gain a lot of experience, too. Be careful of the Lich, who will attack when you get close. You don't want to kill him until most of the Ghouls are dead, so it's best to just put up with him (and try not to move any high-level units where he can get at them).		The second option is to farm the Ghouls for experience. You've got lots and lots of dwarves, right? Why not have fun with them? Surround the water with dwarfs on all sides, and wait for turn 21. You'll lose a few dwarfs, but you'll gain a lot of experience, too. Be careful of the Lich, who will attack when you get close. You don't want to kill him until most of the Ghouls are dead, so it's best to just put up with him (and try not to move any high-level units where he can get at them).
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		+	Comment (Wesnoth 1.14 or later): The map has been redrawn, with chokepoints in the entrance passageways; in each direction there are two chokepoints with some villages between them, the undead will occupy the village areas in turn 3 (northwards) and turns 3-4 (eastwards). The passage northwards has bridges on your side of that area, which aren't a chokepoint for bats and where your dwarves have only 30% def, it's probably worth pushing north as quickly as possible. The chokepoints eastwards are wider, with solid rock terrain underfoot.

	Comment (Nightmare): Finishing before turn 21 or even surrounding all the water by that time looks very much impossible, however even if you only took out the two leaders on the western edge of the map until turn 21 it is very well possible to kill all those Ghouls and still receive a handy gold bonus. Ghouls are scared of levelled thugs and dwarf fighters, which makes "controlling" them pretty easy.		Comment (Nightmare): Finishing before turn 21 or even surrounding all the water by that time looks very much impossible, however even if you only took out the two leaders on the western edge of the map until turn 21 it is very well possible to kill all those Ghouls and still receive a handy gold bonus. Ghouls are scared of levelled thugs and dwarf fighters, which makes "controlling" them pretty easy.