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	The one way of beating this scenario that I can attest to is the brute force method. If you have played the last scenario well, you will come in with significant starting gold and several Fugitives and Shadow Mages, as well as other lvl 2-3 units to recall. You will also have the ability to recruit rogues, and you should get at least one for its skirmisher ability. So you will take your units toward the southwest tower, staying clear of the orcs. Dangle some expendable units in range of the defenders, to lure them to jump out to attack. When they do, swarm them and continue pushing your army toward the western gate. Again, try to lure the northwestern tower defenders into the open, swarm them, and then push east into the castle. Don't pause for time of day, just keep attacking, time is of the essence. Use your mages to kill enemies on castle tiles, and use your thugs/highwaymen to screen the mages from counterattacks. Focus on taking out the enemy's pikemen/spearmen, because Gwydion and his horseboys will charge directly into them otherwise, and be even more useless than usual. If you take out the northwestern pikemen, then the Elensefar troops will get all the way into the castle and pressure the northeast tower from the inside. The hardest tower to capture is the southeast. The orcs will get close to taking it, but then they will be overwhelmed by the waves of reinforcements from the east. The reinforcements will follow the orcs southeast, back toward their leader outside the castle, but once the orcs are defeated the reinforcemetns will start to return to fight you, so you want to take the southeast tower while most of them are still outside. Here is where recruiting a single rogue at the start will really pay off. All you need to do is open a narrow path to the southeastern trap door, then you can use the rogue's skirmish ability to sneak him in on a suicide mission while the rest of your forces focus on the northeast tower, which will be comparatively easy, since the elensefar knights are providing distraction and softening up the defenders.		The one way of beating this scenario that I can attest to is the brute force method. If you have played the last scenario well, you will come in with significant starting gold and several Fugitives and Shadow Mages, as well as other lvl 2-3 units to recall. You will also have the ability to recruit rogues, and you should get at least one for its skirmisher ability. So you will take your units toward the southwest tower, staying clear of the orcs. Dangle some expendable units in range of the defenders, to lure them to jump out to attack. When they do, swarm them and continue pushing your army toward the western gate. Again, try to lure the northwestern tower defenders into the open, swarm them, and then push east into the castle. Don't pause for time of day, just keep attacking, time is of the essence. Use your mages to kill enemies on castle tiles, and use your thugs/highwaymen to screen the mages from counterattacks. Focus on taking out the enemy's pikemen/spearmen, because Gwydion and his horseboys will charge directly into them otherwise, and be even more useless than usual. If you take out the northwestern pikemen, then the Elensefar troops will get all the way into the castle and pressure the northeast tower from the inside. The hardest tower to capture is the southeast. The orcs will get close to taking it, but then they will be overwhelmed by the waves of reinforcements from the east. The reinforcements will follow the orcs southeast, back toward their leader outside the castle, but once the orcs are defeated the reinforcemetns will start to return to fight you, so you want to take the southeast tower while most of them are still outside. Here is where recruiting a single rogue at the start will really pay off. All you need to do is open a narrow path to the southeastern trap door, then you can use the rogue's skirmish ability to sneak him in on a suicide mission while the rest of your forces focus on the northeast tower, which will be comparatively easy, since the elensefar knights are providing distraction and softening up the defenders.
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		+	If you had one of your units grab the poison potion from last scenario, you can use them as a 'poison bomb' by just throwing them into one of the gates and trying to hit as many units as they can before dying. There are no villages inside the fortress, so any poisoned enemy units will just stand around until they hit 1 hp forever, which makes it easy for your other units to dispatch them several turns later.

	Below are some other strategies for beating this level. This campaign was significantly updated in 1.15, so some of the suggested strategies below may no longer apply.		Below are some other strategies for beating this level. This campaign was significantly updated in 1.15, so some of the suggested strategies below may no longer apply.

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 Notice that, during the first two scenarios of this campaign, your units will not be exactly Footpads, Thugs and Poachers. They will be instead ''Peasant Youths'', ''Villagers'' and ''Peasant Hunters''. The main difference of these counterparts is that they have a neutral alignment, so you need to adjust your strategies accordingly in case you're accustomed to the Time of Day cycle for chaotic units. From the third scenario onwards, your army will become regular (chaotic) units.
-The main problem in this campaign is finding units to deal damage; Footpads are great for swarming and pinning enemies, but even swarming an enemy from all sides they might take less than half its HP off in one turn. None of your L1 units cause much damage. It's important to level up a couple each of Thugs and Poachers; you then use these as first strike against an enemy unit, followed by the Footpad swarm to finish them off or at least pin them so you can finish them next turn. In particular, you want a Huntsman by scenario 7 so you have decent marksman damage for busting enemy commanders.
+The main problem early in this campaign is finding units to deal damage; Footpads are great for swarming and pinning enemies, but even swarming an enemy from all sides they might take less than half its HP off in one turn. None of your L1 units cause much damage except thugs. Having at least a few high level thugs and poachers is necessary; you then use these as first strike against an enemy unit, followed by the Footpad swarm to finish them off or at least pin them so you can finish them next turn. In particular, you want a Huntsman by scenario 7 so you have decent marksman damage for busting enemy commanders.
-This is a small spoiler, but you will face many enemies with high pierce resistance in this campaign, especially toward the end. For this reason, it is advisable to not invest your xp too heavily into poachers. Instead, focus on levelling up footpads. They do decent ranged damage at higher levels, and their superior damage type, high movement, and survivability make them a better long term investment. One Huntsman should be enough to soften up the tougher enemies without pierce resistance, and give the rest of the xp to footpads. You start off with 2 level 2 thugs, in addition to Baldras, so getting them all up to lvl 3 will give you more than enough melee power.
+This is a small spoiler, but you will face many enemies with high pierce resistance in this campaign, especially toward the end. For this reason, it is advisable to not invest your xp too heavily into poachers. Instead, focus on levelling up multiple footpads. They do decent ranged damage at higher levels, and their superior damage type, high movement, and survivability make them a better long term investment. One Huntsman should be enough to soften up the tougher enemies without pierce resistance, and give the kills to footpads. You start off with 2 level 2 thugs, in addition to Baldras, so getting them all up to lvl 3 will give you more than enough melee power for the whole campaign.
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 The main problem in this campaign is finding units to deal damage; Footpads are great for swarming and pinning enemies, but even swarming an enemy from all sides they might take less than half its HP off in one turn. None of your L1 units cause much damage. It's important to level up a couple each of Thugs and Poachers; you then use these as first strike against an enemy unit, followed by the Footpad swarm to finish them off or at least pin them so you can finish them next turn. In particular, you want a Huntsman by scenario 7 so you have decent marksman damage for busting enemy commanders.
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 Once you've reached all 4 trap doors (not necessarily at once), you have two more turns to survive before the fortress collapses and the scenario is won; make sure to keep Baldras and Harper alive and make sure they're out of the fortress' perimeter when it collapses.
-The one way of beating this scenario that I can attest to is the brute force method. If you have played the last scenario well, you will come in with significant starting gold and several Fugitives and Shadow Mages, as well as other lvl 2-3 units to recall. You will also have the ability to recruit rogues, and you should get at least one for its skirmisher ability. So you will take your units toward the southwest tower, staying clear of the orcs. Dangle some expendable units in range of the defenders, to lure them to jump out to attack. When they do, swarm them and continue pushing your army toward the western gate. Again, try to lure the northwestern tower defenders into the open, swarm them, and then push east into the castle. Don't pause for time of day, just keep attacking, time is of the essence. Use your mages to kill enemies on castle tiles, and use your thugs/highwaymen to screen the mages from counterattacks. Focus on taking out the enemy's pikemen/spearmen, because Gwydion and his horseboys will charge directly into them otherwise, and be even more useless than usual. If you take out the northwestern pikemen, then the Elensefar troops will get all the way into the castle and pressure the northeast tower from the inside. The hardest tower to capture is the southeast. The orcs will get close to taking it, but then they will be overwhelmed by the waves of reinforcements from the east. The reinforcements will follow the orcs southeast, back toward their leader outside the castle, but once the orcs are defeated the reinforcemetns will start to return to fight you, so you want to take the southeast tower while most of them are still outside. The northeast tower is comparatively easy, since the elensefar knights are providing distraction.
+The one way of beating this scenario that I can attest to is the brute force method. If you have played the last scenario well, you will come in with significant starting gold and several Fugitives and Shadow Mages, as well as other lvl 2-3 units to recall. You will also have the ability to recruit rogues, and you should get at least one for its skirmisher ability. So you will take your units toward the southwest tower, staying clear of the orcs. Dangle some expendable units in range of the defenders, to lure them to jump out to attack. When they do, swarm them and continue pushing your army toward the western gate. Again, try to lure the northwestern tower defenders into the open, swarm them, and then push east into the castle. Don't pause for time of day, just keep attacking, time is of the essence. Use your mages to kill enemies on castle tiles, and use your thugs/highwaymen to screen the mages from counterattacks. Focus on taking out the enemy's pikemen/spearmen, because Gwydion and his horseboys will charge directly into them otherwise, and be even more useless than usual. If you take out the northwestern pikemen, then the Elensefar troops will get all the way into the castle and pressure the northeast tower from the inside. The hardest tower to capture is the southeast. The orcs will get close to taking it, but then they will be overwhelmed by the waves of reinforcements from the east. The reinforcements will follow the orcs southeast, back toward their leader outside the castle, but once the orcs are defeated the reinforcemetns will start to return to fight you, so you want to take the southeast tower while most of them are still outside. Here is where recruiting a single rogue at the start will really pay off. All you need to do is open a narrow path to the southeastern trap door, then you can use the rogue's skirmish ability to sneak him in on a suicide mission while the rest of your forces focus on the northeast tower, which will be comparatively easy, since the elensefar knights are providing distraction and softening up the defenders.
 Below are some other strategies for beating this level. This campaign was significantly updated in 1.15, so some of the suggested strategies below may no longer apply.

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 * Objectives: Destroy all four towers
 * Lose if: Baldras or Harper die, or time runs out
-* Turns: ??/34/?? (Easy/Medium/Hard)
+* Turns: ??/??/32 (Easy/Medium/Hard)
-* Starting units: Baldras and Harper, possibly Helicrom
+* Starting units: Baldras, Harper, Helicrom
 * Other: Move a unit onto each of the trap door to destroy a tower
-The Wesnothian army is tough to beat if you have to try to take them on inside their fortress - and they get reinforcements every afternoon. You have to lure as many as possible out of the fortress -- dangle bait just within their engagement range. It's the final scenario, so don't worry about money, just recall all your L2 and L3 recalls and recruit until you are out of gold.
+The Orcs will focus on the wesnoth army primarily, but if you get too close to them some of their units will get distracted and peel off to attack you, so try to keep a good distance from them during the early turns.
-If you chose to have Helicrom join you in battle, he will be auto-recalled for you, and you will be able to recall and recruit his Shadow Mages. (In earlier versions they would be a separate, allied faction.)
+Every time the Afternoon time of day arrives, a new group of reinforcements for the Wesnoth side arrives at the right side of the screen. The first ones arrive just as the orcs are getting the upper hand in the southeastern tower.
-March your troops straight North and hang out around the first village there. It will be a nice pitched battle for a few turns, but eventually your numbers will overwhelm them. Then you can split your forces a bit to the west and south entrances. Remember that your Outlaws and above fight a lot better in the mountains than your opponents (offsetting the garrison bonus).
+On Turn 8, Lord Maddock's son, Gwydion, will appear in a Northwestern castle. He will send in 8-9 mounted units, Lancers or Knights on Hard difficulty, which will proceed to attack. Unfortunately, equestrian tactics don't seem to be one of Elensfar's strong points, and their riders will just make a headstrong charge, which will fail to defeat the defenders. They will shake things up a lot, kill a bunch of units, and create openings for you to sneak in your quick units.
-On Turn 8 (on Medium difficulty) , Lord Maddock's son, Gwydion, will appear in a Northwestern castle. He will send in 8-9 mounted units, Lancers or Knights on Medium difficulty, which will proceed to attack. Unfortunately, equestrian tactics don't seem to be one of Elensfar's strong points, and their riders will just make a headstrong charge, which will fail to defeat the defenders. They will shake things up a lot, kill a bunch of units, and create openings for you to sneak in your quick units.
+The Wesnoth leader gets a ridiculous income, in addition to his periodic free reinforcements, so he will win a battle of attrition.
 Remember: It's the trap doors that matter, not defeating enemy units.
 Once you've reached all 4 trap doors (not necessarily at once), you have two more turns to survive before the fortress collapses and the scenario is won; make sure to keep Baldras and Harper alive and make sure they're out of the fortress' perimeter when it collapses.
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 [Comments by Bumblebee] A different strategy is to avoid direct fight as much as possible and remember you lead guerilla fighters. Recall all quick L2 and L3 units (with at least 6 or 7 moves per turn), recall all ''quick'' L1 Footpads, some poachers and a couple of Thieves or Rogues are helpful too. Spend the first day taking villages and moving your forces, let riders and orcs kill some defenders. Don't send too many units on eastern flank, or they will lure orcs, and orcs will fight mostly you instead of garrison. When army reinforces arrive, retreat if they notice you. Kill pursuers one by one. Let reinforces meet orcs.
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 [Comments by KingElk] Similar to bumblebee, but more specific. This worked on normal difficulty, I'm not sure if it would work on hard. First, recall any Outlaws/Fugitives, or Rangers (I had one ranger (L3 Poacher) and it came in handy fending some of the enemies off, and it is fast.) As the above states, any units with 6/7 moves per turn. Do NOT recall anything else, even if its L3. After, with any leftover gold, recruit Outlaws until you are out of money. Move your entire army (and leader) along the dead west part of the map, until you reach the west entrance. Do NOT fight the army coming from the south gate. They might get a few shots at you but you will beat the scenario before they swing around their main army to trap you in the west (your northwest ally will fend them off for 3+ turns). Split your Outlaws and send 3-5 to the north gate, and the remaining shoved into the west gate. You will probably meet resistance in the west, but the only entrance you need to reach from the west gate is the southwest one. From the north, split again and attempt to reach the northwest and northeast objectives in one turn if possible. As a bonus, if your Outlaw has one extra movement point when it takes an objective, it still has that after and can move onto a castle for 70% defense. The southwest objective can be taken by pushing through the west gate. After those three are down, squeeze some Outlaws from the north or west to the southeast, at any cost. In all likelihood, the northeast Outlaw will have little resistance because of the orc/human fighting. Your leader can head northwest to the corner of the map for safety, don't use him for fighting. NOTE: You don't need the extra ally that was offered earlier in the campaign, or the extra gold. I made the mistake of getting Rogue Mages, but it didn't matter.
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 There are 4 easter eggs in this scenario. In the southwest corner there is a whirlpool which will spawn an extra large tentacle. There is no bonus for killing it, but it is lvl 3 so you can get some easy xp. XP is plentiful in this level though, and you will waste a lot of upkeep walking your units over to it and then all the way back to the main fighting, so it's probably not worth the trouble. North of Baldras' keep there is a key. Southeast of the keep is a white coffin. If one of your units touches the key and then another unit touches the coffin (they don't have to do it at the same time), it will unlock and reveal a ghoul. If you kill the ghoul you will get a potion that gives any unit that picks it up a melee poison attack and some extra hp.  Northwest of Helicrom's keep is a white structure that will give a bonus 16 gold EACH to both Baldras and Helicrom. Northeast of Helicrom's keep is a sword that will give Helicrom a permanent +2 melee damage.
-The next scenario is the end of the campaign, so plan your advancements accordingly. It will feature a lot of fighting on castle tiles and mountains, and it will emphasize speed and mobility. This means that the magical attacks from helicrom's units will be useful, as will the speed of the footpad advancements. Huntsmen are of dubious importance. On the one hand, their marksmanship ability is useful for attacking enemies on castle tiles, but on the other hand the enemy will have lots of Shock Troopers and Pikemen next turn, so pierce damage will not be very effective.
+The next scenario is the end of the campaign, so plan your advancements in this scenario accordingly. The final scenario will feature a lot of fighting on castle tiles and mountains, and it will emphasize speed and mobility. This means that the magical attacks from helicrom's units will be useful, as will the speed of the footpad advancements. Huntsmen are of dubious importance. On the one hand, their marksmanship ability is useful for attacking enemies on castle tiles, but on the other hand the enemy will have lots of Shock Troopers and Pikemen, so pierce damage will not be very effective.
-For maximizing carryover gold into the next scenario, keep 2 things in mind:
+For maximizing carryover gold into the final scenario, keep 2 things in mind:
 ) the objectives say there is no early finish bonus, but this is not exactly true. There is no way to finish before turn 21 when the last patrol appears. But there is an early finish bonus from turn 21 on.
-) At the end of this scenario, it will calculate carryover gold for both Baldras' and Helicrom's team, but only Baldras' carryover actually affects the starting gold for next scenario; Helicrom's carryover gold just disappears. For this reason, it can be a good idea to send a footpad from Baldras' side to steal all of Helicrom's villages ASAP. They will help offset Baldras' upkeep and increase his income for the whole level, and are just wasted on Helicrom.
+) At the end of this scenario, it will calculate carryover gold for both Baldras' and Helicrom's team, but only Baldras' carryover actually affects the starting gold for next scenario; Helicrom's carryover gold just disappears. For this reason, it can be a good idea to immediately send Harper to Helicrom's side of the path to steal all of Helicrom's villages ASAP. They will help offset Baldras' upkeep and increase his income for the whole level, and are just wasted on Helicrom.
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 Turn 1: 3 shock troopers, 2 heavy infantry
 Turn 5: 1 shock trooper, 1 heavy infantry, 1 swordsman, 1 longbowman, 1 javelineer
 Turn 11: 1 shock trooper, 1 heavy infantry, 1 pikeman, 1 longbowman, 1 spearman, 1 javelineer
 Turn 17: 2 shock troopers, 1 heavy infantry, 1 longbowman, 1 swordsman, 1 lieutenant, 1 spearman
 Turn 21: 1 master at arms, 3 duelists, 1 swordsman, 1 javelineer
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 start: first watch
 Turn 4: midnight (the same as first watch and second watch, mechanically)
 Turn 7: second watch
 Turn 10: dawn
 Turn 11: morning
 Turn 14: afternoon
 Turn 17: dusk
 Turn 18: first watch
 Turn 21: midnight

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 * Starting units: Baldras and Harper
-Detach two Footpads to grab villages, one in the town (Lord Maddock isn't going to use them all
+There are a lot of villages on this map, so your first 3 recruits should be footpads. 1 should go northwest, the other northeast. If one of them is quick, or if you can recall a quick one, send it first to the west side of your starting area and then south across the river. The enemy will focus mostly on your ally's troops that run straight down the center of the map, so a quick footpad can often sneak down the west side of the map and claim several villages without being noticed. You can also use your starting units to grab all of your ally's villages nearby on turn 1.
 Lord Maddock's troops will be barely a speedbump and by the end of the first night you'll be on your own.
-You can play this defensively by holding the north bank of the river and letting the enemy come to you, or you can try for a faster victory by sending a swarm of thugs right on the heels of maddock's men, planning for massive casualties on both sides. Either way, sending some quick units over the bridge to the east will help you to break the bottleneck at the southern river crossing.
+You can play this defensively by holding the north bank of the river and letting the enemy come to you, or you can try for a faster victory by sending a swarm of units right on the heels of maddock's men. If you're trying to rush, a swarm of footpads is the best bet. Their high mobility lets them get past the bottleneck at the bridge, and their high defense on flat gives them a decent chance of surviving the counterattack.  Either way, sending some quick units over the bridge to the east will help you to break the bottleneck at the southern river crossing and flank the enemies fighting at the central bridge crossing.
-Your enemies' resistances change dramatically with time of day. So it can pay to get some poachers for attacking during daylight when the enemy horse units are vulnerable to pierce, and some footpads for attacking at night when they're vulnerable to impact. Thugs are your only melee unit, so you want a bunch of them either way.
+Your enemies' resistances change dramatically with time of day. So it can pay to get some poachers for attacking during daylight when the enemy horse units are vulnerable to pierce, and some footpads for attacking at night when they're vulnerable to impact. Thugs are your only melee unit, so you want some of them to deal with archers either way.
 Maddock will obligingly jump off of his keep once he's spent his starting gold if you're nearby, so on turn 3 or 4 you will be able to recruit in your own keep, then run over to Maddock's keep and recruit again in the same turn.

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 * Starting units: Baldras and Harper
-Your allies are surprisingly effective and can pretty much handle the saurians on their own, so focus most of your attention on the orcs and just send a few units to accompany your ally against the saurians and steal some kills when possible. It's tempting to send a bunch of footpads around to steal villages, but you might be better off just recruiting mostly thugs and poachers and trying to take out the enemy leaders ASAP for the early finish bonus.
+This scenario is not hard to beat overall, but to get a lot of carryover gold for the next scenario, you need to consider your unit choices and movement carefully.
 Notice that, after the stark realization reached by Baldras at the end of the previous scenario, your army has turned now into standard chaotic units (Footpads, Thugs, etc.). But Relana hasn't gone full outlaw and killed any human soldiers yet, so she and her troops are still neutral.

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 * Objectives: Kill all enemy patrols before they reach the outpost
 * Lose if: Death of Baldras, Harper, or Helicrom. Any patrol units survive when turns run out. Any allied unit is sighted by the outpost guards.
-* Turns: 27 (Hard. I'm not sure of the turns on lower difficulties)
+* Turns: ??/??/27 (Easy, Medium Hard)
 * Starting units: Baldras and Harper
 Helicrom and Baldras are each their own team, with their own income, and you control each one each turn. Unfortunately, this means Helicrom's leadership does not affect Baldras' units.
-Like the starting dialogue says, you will need to intercept 5 patrols. They each appear in the southeast corner of the map and travel along the path toward the outpost in the northwest corner. Here is their composition and the order of their appearance:
+Like the starting dialogue says, you will need to intercept 5 patrols. They each appear in the southeast corner of the map and travel along the path toward the outpost in the northwest corner. Here is their composition and the order of their appearance, on Hard difficulty:
 Turn 1: 3 shock troopers, 2 heavy infantry