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Elven at 09:20, 29 March 2021

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Elven: /* Undead vs Loyalists */

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‎Undead vs Loyalists

Elven: /* Undead vs Northerners */

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‎Undead vs Northerners

Elven: /* Undead vs Knalgans */

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‎Undead vs Knalgans

Elven at 12:21, 26 March 2021

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Elven: /* Undead units */

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‎Undead units

Elven at 23:19, 25 March 2021

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Elven: /* Starting troops - random opponent */

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‎Starting troops - random opponent

Elven: /* Villages */

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‎Villages

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 Like Drakes, there will be a heavy day/night push and pull. Ghosts will be more effective here as the Loyalists are less mobile and have less Fire. Loyalists are the most versatile faction, so you'll need to be prepared to handle anything.
-'''Skeleton''': A good staple unit. Use this to hack up any unit except HI. You'll do equal damage to Spearmen in day and everyone else is cake. Be carefull with enemy Mages as they do tremendous damage with no retaliation, especially during the day.
+A good first turn recruit would consist of a Ghost for grabbing, an Adept or two, a combination of 2 or 3 Skeletons + Archers, and perhaps a Ghoul depending on how you want to play it.
 '''Skeleton Archer''': Once you discover that the enemy is Loyalists, consider using Skeleton Archers as your main recruit instead of Dark Adepts. Skeleton Archer is cheaper than Dark Adept, it has more hitpoints and high resistance to Pierce and Blade. Any melee oriented Loyalist unit can counter Dark Adept, but almost all of them are ineffective against Skeleton Archer and even Mages will suffer from retaliation. Cavalryman has Cold resistance (which is main damage type of the Dark Adept), both Cavalryman and Horseman have Piercing vulnerability, which makes Skeleton Archer good counter to them. Keep Skeleton Archers far from HI unless you can finish them that turn.
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 '''Ghost''': Get one and probably no more than that. Mages can kill this unit alone in day, and the 19 gold is far too much to waste. Their Drain ability makes them good attackers of Spearmen, as their Firststrike ability actually works against them. Usually you'll want to ranged attack HI or melee Mages, but keep in mind that your nighttime Drain + 50% defense + good resists means you'll usually go unscathed in melee at night.
 If your opponent has no HI then your nighttime attack plan is simple: lead with Adepts to freeze everything out of your path and then cover them with your skeleton units. Again, don't be afraid to freeze Mages at night, as 12-2 will kill 2 out 6 Mages (based on hp they get from traits), and they will only deal 5-3 back, or 5-1 if you kill them. Doing this is a coin-flip though, so judge accordingly.

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 An interesting battle as both factions are Chaotic. You'll deal more damage at night, so you should usually be the aggressor at this time. You'll be facing a lot of Whelps and Archers most likely, with maybe some Grunts and other units sparsed in.
-However, one interesting fact - they cannot poison most of your forces, but you can poison all of them, including assassin.
+However, one interesting fact - they cannot poison most of your forces, but you can poison all of them, including assassin. A good first turn recruit would consist of a Ghost, Skeleton, Ghoul, DA, and another DA, Ghost, or skeleton type. The Ghoul can also be exchanged for a damage dealer.
 '''Skeleton''': Good for taking out any units except Whelps, you'll want to have a couple of these guys in your front line.
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 '''Ghost''': A great unit to have. Only Archers can reliably take this unit out. His cost is high - especially when compared to the cost of Northerners, but his ability to survive - especially on a village - will make him a thorn in your opponents side. You should be able to see where your opponents archers are, so stay away from them. Use his ranged attack to assist you in killing melee units so that you don't run into a situation of bad luck getting you hurt.
 Keep your Skeletons and Ghouls up front to deal return damage in defense and against counter-attacks. Ghouls are your best defensive weapon as they will Poison any who attack them, and Archers will need 4 hits with their Fire arrows at night to get you to 1hp.

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 You'll want to catch Knalgans on poor terrain. Dwarves on hills or mountains are hard to hit. To combat them you'll need to use Poison and magic to make them move. Dwarves are sturdy and neutral, so you have to focus fire at night to kill them.
 '''Skeleton''': A good standard unit, Skeletons are only in serious danger from Dwarvish Fighters, of which you will likely face several. This unit can take on all of the Outlaws as well as the dangerous Ulfserker. At night, his 6-3 attacks on Guardsmen will also be quite useful. You'll need one to counter an Ulfserker.
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 '''Ghost''': As Knalgans have no true counter for Ghosts, these scouts should be used exclusively over Bats. Their greatest use is using their ranged attack on melee exclusive units. Their Drain melee and high resistances makes the Ghost essentially impossible for melee units to kill. The sole exception to this is the Ulfserker. At night, and even possibly at dusk/dawn, the Ghost has an excellent chance of killing an Ulfserker with his Drain attack. During the day, however, the Ghost is in real jeopardy of defeat from this unit. Try to keep the ghost from Thunderers as well, as 2 shots will take him down, and you won't want to lose this unit so easily. Ghosts are in danger from mass poachers, but you can drive them back with skeletons/skeleton archers.
 In defense, Ghouls on villages or mountains will prove very bothersome to Knalgans. Keep them in the front line to Poison oncoming attackers. They'll take Thunderer shots (at 13-1), so they'll last a while too. Skeletons are alright to keep in front too, due to their resistances outside of Impact. Make sure your Adepts stay behind so they don't get Ulfs.

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 ==See also==
 [[How to play Mages]]
 [[Category:How to Play]]

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 * <b>good defenses in difficult terrains</b>, but low hitpoints
 * chaotic
-* <b>strong</b> vs drakes and anyone in good terrain (magic attack); <b>weak</b> vs everyone good in melee fighting, ulfserkers are deadly to them
+* <b>strong</b> vs drakes and anyone in good terrain (magic attack); <b>weak</b> vs everyone good in melee fighting, especially ulfserkers
 * Strong magical ranged attack (cold or arcane)

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-(96 gold)
+(95 gold)
 Undead have leaders, who have mostly some advantages and disadvantages. So, you can take an upgraded unit what is good against your enemies. Classic recruit is a Necromancer.

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	It may sounds funny, but (un)dead needs healing. Some of your units, like ghosts and dark adepts, can heal rapidly. You can take a lot of villages with very fast bats, who do not need any money from you each turn (level 0). However, they are not good at fighting. Use ghouls to fight in villages. They are resilient and can poison your enemies, so they will have to use s village. But the closest one is safely in your hands...		It may sounds funny, but (un)dead needs healing. Some of your units, like ghosts and dark adepts, can heal rapidly. You can take a lot of villages with very fast bats, who do not need any money from you each turn (level 0). However, they are not good at fighting. Use ghouls to fight in villages. They are resilient and can poison your enemies, so they will have to use s village. But the closest one is safely in your hands...