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Elven: /* Undead vs Drakes: */

2021-03-07T21:42:39Z

‎Undead vs Drakes:

Sergey: Updated Undead vs Loyalists strategy to prefer Skeleton Archers instead of Dark Adepts

2019-08-24T08:43:28Z

Updated Undead vs Loyalists strategy to prefer Skeleton Archers instead of Dark Adepts

Edward Chernenko: typo

2018-12-20T02:31:42Z

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Capitanquartz: /* Undead versus Knalgans: */

2009-08-08T15:27:35Z

‎Undead versus Knalgans:

Capitanquartz: /* Undead versus Rebels: */

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‎Undead versus Rebels:

Capitanquartz: /* Undead versus Northerners: */

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‎Undead versus Northerners:

Capitanquartz: /* Undead versus Loyalists: */

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‎Undead versus Loyalists:

Capitanquartz: /* Undead versus Drakes: */

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‎Undead versus Drakes:

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 On the offense, your units are good at night. So rally sketelons (both types) to push and ghouls to poison strong targets. Burners are an issue, so make sure they will not kill your units. If needed, concentrate fire on them. Bats can help lowering their income while at the same time, they do not need any gold for themselves.
-==See also==
+== Specialists ==
-[[How to play Mages]]
+How to play specialists: [[How to play Horseman|Horseman]] - [[How to play Mages|Mages]] - [[How to play Skirmishers|Skirmishers]]
 [[Category:How to Play]]

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 '''Ghoul''': Very limited in it's usefulness against Drakes as they have so much hp and can easily fly back to towns to heal, your money is better spent.
-'''Dark Adept''': The meat of your army will be this unit. Doing 12-2 damage to Drakes during daytime makes them an obvious choice, and at night you will get an incredible 17-2 magical with a 16 gold level 1 unit. Recruit lots of these, but not so many that you can't cover them with other units. Clashers will literally eat these guys during the day, as will Drake Fighters. Beware of Skirmishers at night, as they are the best counter agsint these guys. Like I said, if Skirmishers become a problem, bring a Skeleton with you to chop them up.
+'''Dark Adept''': The meat of your army will be this unit. Doing 12-2 damage to Drakes during daytime makes them an obvious choice, and at night you will get an incredible 17-2 magical with a 16 gold level 1 unit. Recruit lots of these, but not so many that you can't cover them with other units. Clashers will literally eat these guys during the day, as will Drake Fighters. Beware of Skirmishers at night, as they are the best counter against these guys. Like I said, if Skirmishers become a problem, bring a Skeleton with you to chop them up. Also, they fight reasonably well against Augurs, who are vulnerable to cold.
-'''Ghost''': A decent buy for early grabbing and for scouting, but for Cold damage Adepts are better. Ghosts die easily in the day, but having the mobility at night can prove quite useful. Don't recruit more than 1 early, or you'll be burned to death very quickly.
+'''Ghost''': A decent buy for early grabbing and for scouting, but for Cold damage Adepts are better. Ghosts die easily in the day, but having the mobility at night can prove quite useful. Don't recruit more than 1 early, or you'll be burned to death very quickly by Burners. They get damaged by Fighters and Gliders during night, so they can take some fire damage.
 A good first turn recruit would consist of a Skeleton Archer, a Ghost, 2 Adepts, and perhaps a Skeleton with more Archers and Adepts to be recruited later. Don't shy away from the fact that you'll have to freeze Drakes into submission. Use Adepts on Burners and Archers on other Drakes, but always finish what you start - don't leave Drakes hanging around until daytime because they will put a hurt on. It's better to kill 1 Drake than to hurt 2. If Saurians do skirmish in behind you, use Adepts on them to finish them quickly if no Skeletons are around. They are weak to Cold and they do cost 15 gold. If you end up not killing a Drake with that Adept then he at least earned his cost by killing that one unit.
-In defense, put Skeleton Archers on towns, and keep your Ghost(s) away from the front line. a Burner can tear them apart and any flyer can come in to help if they need to. Don't be afraid to use Adepts to counter even in day, but don't attack Burners with them at this time; they'll do too much damage in return, so focus on killing Clasher and Fighters during the day.
+In defense, put Skeleton Archers on towns, and keep your Ghost(s) away from the front line. A Burner can tear them apart and any flyer can come in to help if they need to. Don't be afraid to use Adepts to counter even in day, but don't attack Burners with them at this time; they'll do too much damage in return, so focus on killing Clasher and Fighters during the day. Dark Adepts can get a lot of damage to saurians, but they will also do a lot of damage to these dark mages, who have limited health.
 ==Undead vs Loyalists:==

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 Like Drakes, there will be a heavy day/night push and pull. Ghosts will be more effective here as the Loyalists are less mobile and have less Fire. Loyalists are the most versatile faction, so you'll need to be prepared to handle anything.
-'''Skeleton''': A good staple unit. Use this to hack up any unit except HI. You'll do equal damage to Spearmen in day and everyone else is cake.
+'''Skeleton''': A good staple unit. Use this to hack up any unit except HI. You'll do equal damage to Spearmen in day and everyone else is cake. Be carefull with enemy Mages as they do tremendous damage with no retaliation, especially during the day.
-'''Skeleton Archer''': Another good unit to have 1 or 2 of. Mix and match your skeletons, or just use one brand. Recruit these if your opponent has mounted units - especially Cold resistant Cavalry. These guys are useful against most other Loyalist units as well, and do decent return damage to Mages at dawn/dusk. Keep them far from HI unless you can finish them that turn.
+'''Skeleton Archer''': Once you discover that the enemy is Loyalists, consider using Skeleton Archers as your main recruit instead of Dark Adepts. Skeleton Archer is cheaper than Dark Adept, it has more hitpoints and high resistance to Pierce and Blade. Any melee oriented Loyalist unit can counter Dark Adept, but almost all of them are ineffective against Skeleton Archer and even Mages will suffer from retaliation. Cavalryman has Cold resistance (which is main damage type of the Dark Adept), both Cavalryman and Horseman have Piercing vulnerability, which makes Skeleton Archer good counter to them. Keep Skeleton Archers far from HI unless you can finish them that turn.
 '''Walking Corpse''': These guys may be useful, but money on heavier hitters is money better spent. These guys are best used to clean up a mess you don't want to waste a Skeleton or Dark Adept on. Beware, they can be easily destroyed by heavy infantry
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 '''Vampire Bat''': Don't recruit this unit when fighting Loyalists unless you need a scout unit to cross water to gather villages quickly. For 7 more gold you can get a Ghost who is a great frontline unit if your opponent has no Mages in range.
-'''Ghoul''': Useful to hold villages and scare off high hp units. Does your opponent have too many HI to kill in one turn? Poison one and make sure you kill the rest. This guy resists everything except Impact (and obviously Holy) just a little bit, so he can be a nice damage soaker - especially if your opponent focuses on melee.
+'''Ghoul''': Useful to hold villages and scare off high hp units. Does your opponent have too many HI to kill in one turn? Poison one and make sure you kill the rest. This guy resists everything except Impact (and obviously Arcane) just a little bit, so he can be a nice damage soaker - especially if your opponent focuses on melee.
-'''Dark Adept''': Again, your meat. Not as much as with Drakes, but you'll want these guys near your front line at all times to counter-attack HI and to knock out the high defense Fencers. Mermen will resist you 20%, but you will cut through their high defense as well. At night these guys are killers, plain and simple. Go for HI and Horsemen first, then any other non-Cavalry units - the more expensive the better. Even using Adepts on Mages is smart at night if you're low on Skeletons.
+'''Dark Adept''': Good unit in this matchup. Not as much as with Drakes, but you'll want these guys near your front line at all times to counter-attack HI and to knock out the high defense Fencers. Mermen will resist you 20%, but you will cut through their high defense as well. At night these guys are killers, plain and simple. Go for HI and Horsemen first, then any other non-Cavalry units - the more expensive the better. Even using Adepts on Mages is smart at night if you're low on Skeletons.
 '''Ghost''': Get one and probably no more than that. Mages can kill this unit alone in day, and the 20 gold is far too much to waste. Their Drain ability makes them good attackers of Spearmen, as their Firststrike ability actually works against them. Usually you'll want to ranged attack HI or melee Mages, but keep in mid that your nighttime Drain + 50% defense + good resists means you'll usually go unscathed in melee at night.

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 Use your DAs to tear through the otherwise hard-to-kill Whelps, and make sure to finish them as fast as possible, or at least Poison them, or you'll waste 8 damage a turn. If your opponent has any Nagas, punish them with your Adepts and Ghosts - you'll deal 120% damage.
-You'll want to press at night at defend at day as usual, but the reason may not be so clear as Northerners are also Chaotic. The reason is that Undead deal more damage per unit, but are also more expensive. At night your ability to quickly tear through units and finish them off is impressive. During the day it is not; if you cannot take out units in your attack you will be swarmed by larger numbers of Northerners that will trap and kill you. The Regeneration of Whelps becomes a much larger effect during the day as well. Because of these reasons you'll want to defend during the day and take out as many units as possible in each night-time attack.
+You'll want to press at night and defend at day as usual, but the reason may not be so clear as Northerners are also Chaotic. The reason is that Undead deal more damage per unit, but are also more expensive. At night your ability to quickly tear through units and finish them off is impressive. During the day it is not; if you cannot take out units in your attack you will be swarmed by larger numbers of Northerners that will trap and kill you. The Regeneration of Whelps becomes a much larger effect during the day as well. Because of these reasons you'll want to defend during the day and take out as many units as possible in each night-time attack.
 ==Undead vs Rebels:==

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 Try to focus xp on single Skeletons. Levelling one into a Deathblade will prove deadly for your opponent. His extra move will hunt down Mages and Elves and his extra strike will ensure their deaths. The unit also becomes a real Wose killer at night dealing up to 50 of 52 damage. Levelling a Bat will also prove a useful Mage hunting tool.
-==Undead versus Knalgans:==
+==Undead vs Knalgans:==
 You'll want to catch Knalgans on poor terrain. Dwarves on hills or mountains are hard to move - they usually have to move themselves. To combat this you'll need to use Poison and magic to make them move.

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 You'll want to press at night at defend at day as usual, but the reason may not be so clear as Northerners are also Chaotic. The reason is that Undead deal more damage per unit, but are also more expensive. At night your ability to quickly tear through units and finish them off is impressive. During the day it is not; if you cannot take out units in your attack you will be swarmed by larger numbers of Northerners that will trap and kill you. The Regeneration of Whelps becomes a much larger effect during the day as well. Because of these reasons you'll want to defend during the day and take out as many units as possible in each night-time attack.
-==Undead versus Rebels:==
+==Undead vs Rebels:==
 You'll likely see a bunch of Woses and Mages in this battle as they are the best unit to deal damage to your forces. Because they are Lawful there will again be a strong day/night push. If your opponent does not recruit many of these units you shouldn't have much of a challenge ahead of you if you simply recruit Skeletons and Archers.

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 On defense, use ghouls and walking corpses to shield your other units. If you can ZOC shield on good terrain especially with ghouls, your opponents will have a very difficult time attacking you without exposing his/her units on bad terrain. Position yourself so that you are the first to attack at night. Regroup at day.
-==Undead versus Northerners:==
+==Undead vs Northerners:==
 An interesting battle as both factions are Chaotic. You'll deal more damage at night, so you should usually be the aggressor at this time. You'll be facing a lot of Whelps and Archers most likely, with maybe some Grunts and other units sparsed in.

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 Since Undead have major resistance strengths and weaknesses every opponent will have a specific plan to counter you. This will consist of Fire and Impact units. It just so happens that Adepts are best at countering these units whether it be defensively against Fire units or offensively against Impact units. A good note is that Ghouls have 10% Fire resistance and no Impact vulnerability. They are a good defensive unit to use on villages for the most part.
-==Undead versus Drakes:==
+==Undead vs Drakes:==
 Possibly the deadliest matchup in Wesnoth, this game will result in lots of casualties, and very quickly. Both factions are incredibly offensive and of opposite alignment. Skeletons are weak to Fire, Adepts to melee, and Drakes are weak to Pierce and Cold. Basically, whoever is left standing wins.