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RussianTranslation

2010-06-09T13:08:58Z

Umi: /* Текущее состояние переводов (версия 1.8) */

Координатор перевода (Translation maintainer):
* Victor Sergienko ([[User:singalen|singalen]]) mailto:singalenАТgmailDОTcom

Текущие переводчики (Current translators):

* Fedor Khod'kov (teddy, [[User:Player1|Player1]]) mailto:fedor76ATistraDOTru
* Valentina Mukhamedzhanova (umi) mailto:umirraATgmailDOTcom
* Fedor Gavrilov (gallowzbird) mailto:the.sun.turns.blackATgmailDOTcom
* Fardeil
* Danila Evstifeyev ([[User:MyOtheHedgeFox|MyOtheHedgeFox]]) mailto:a-ztechATyandexDOTru

Благодарим за помощь (Inactive translators):

* Victor Zabavin (vicza) mailto:viczaATzmailDOTru
* Azamat H. Hackimov ([[User:Winterheart|Winterheart]]) mailto:azamatDOThackimovATgmailDOTcom
* Ilya Kasnacheev (Ilyak) mailto:ilya.kasnacheev@gmail.com
* Kotov Ilya ([[User:Maddiez|Maddiez]]) mailto:kotov_ilyaATmailDOTru
* Anthony Kolesov ([[User:Kaagle|Kaagle]]) mailto:anthony.kolesovATgmailDOTcom
* Sergey Popov (loonycyborg) mailto:loonycyborgATgmailDOTcom
* Alexandr Menovchicov (VaM) mailto:vamATkypiDOTru (first maintainer)
* Denis Revin (Dut_Norshi) mailto:denis.revin@gmail.com

== Текущее состояние переводов (версия 1.8) ==

[http://www.wesnoth.org/gettext/index.lang.php?lang=ru&version=branch Самая свежая информация]

{|border=1
! Название
! Файл
! Состояние
! Последнее изменение
! Поддерживает
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|colspan=5 align="center"|'''Основная ветка игры''' (mainline)
|-
|Интерфейс || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth/ru.po wesnoth] || 99% || 30.11.2009 || singalen
|-
|Интерфейс || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-lib/ru.po wesnoth-lib] || 97%, требует правки || 30.11.2009 || singalen
|-
|Страницы man || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-manpages/ru.po wesnoth-manpages] || 68% || 07.04.2009 || -
|-
|Руководство || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-manual/ru.po wesnoth-manual] || 77% || 05.04.2008 || teddy
|-
|Редактор || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-editor/ru.po wesnoth-editor] || 96% || 17.08.2009 || -
|-
|Рода войск || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-units/ru.po wesnoth-units] || переведено || 30.11.2009 || singalen
|-
|Сетевая || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-multiplayer/ru.po wesnoth-multiplayer]|| переведено || 20.10.2009 || singalen
|-
|Обучение || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-tutorial/ru.po wesnoth-tutorial] || переведено || 30.11.2009 || teddy
|-
|Набег орков || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-aoi/ru.po wesnoth-aoi] || переведено || 22.11.2009 || teddy
|-
|Спускаясь во тьму || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-did/ru.po wesnoth-did] || переведено, отредактировано || 24.05.2010 || -
|-
|Воспоминания Делфадора || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-dm/ru.po wesnoth-dm] || правка || 09.06.2010 || umi
|-
|Вторжение с востока || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-ei/ru.po wesnoth-ei] || переведено || 6.12.2009 || -
|-
|Наследник престола || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-httt/ru.po wesnoth-httt] || переведено || 22.11.2009 || teddy
|-
|Освобождение || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-l/ru.po wesnoth-l] || 96%, требует правки || 18.03.2009 || cheer
|-
|Легенда Весмира || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-low/ru.po wesnoth-low] || 99% || 22.11.2009 || teddy
|-
|Северное возрождение || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-nr/ru.po wesnoth-nr] || переведено (кроме неактивной ветви) || 12.12.2009 || teddy
|-
|Сын Чёрного Глаза || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-sotbe/ru.po wesnoth-sotbe] || 97% || 24.11.2009 || umi, gallowzbird
|-
|Огненный скипетр || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-sof/ru.po wesnoth-sof] || переведено || 22.11.2009 || teddy
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|Сказание о двух братьях || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-tb/ru.po wesnoth-tb] || переведено || 22.11.2009 || teddy
|-
|Молот Турсагана || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-thot/ru.po wesnoth-thot] || 100% || 19.11.2009 || cheer
|-
|На заре Веснота || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-trow/ru.po wesnoth-trow] || переведено || 22.11.2009 || teddy
|-
|Южная стража || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-tsg/ru.po wesnoth-tsg] || переведено || 22.11.2009 || teddy
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|Под палящими светилами || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-utbs/ru.po wesnoth-utbs] || 100% || 18.12.2009 || teddy
|-
|Новая земля || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/wesnoth-anl/ru.po wesnoth-anl] || 97% || 17.08.2009 || phantom
|-
|colspan=5 align="center"|'''Нестабильная ветка игры''' (trunk)
|-
|Мёртвые воды || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/trunk/po/wesnoth-dw/ru.po wesnoth-dw] || 50%, в процессе || 18.04.2010 || tiandrey
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|colspan=5 align="center"|'''Графические файлы''' (карты, скриншоты и др.) [http://wiki.wesnoth.org/ImageLocalization#List_of_Images_for_Localization Список файлов]
|-
|Помощь || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/branches/1.8/data/core/images/help Каталог] || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/branches/1.8/data/core/images/help/l10n/ru готово] || 18.12.2009 || teddy
|-
|Руководство || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/branches/1.8/doc/manual/images Каталог] || - || - ||
|-
|Главная карта || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/data/core/images/maps/wesnoth.png Файл] || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/data/core/images/maps/l10n/ru/wesnoth--overlay.png готово] || 17.12.2009 || singalen
|-
|Логотип || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/data/core/images/misc/logo.png Файл] || - || - || -
|-
|Карта AOI || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/data/campaigns/An_Orcish_Incursion/images/an-orcish-incursion-map.png Файл] || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/data/campaigns/An_Orcish_Incursion/images/l10n/ru/an-orcish-incursion-map--overlay.png готово] || 18.12.2009 || -
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|Карта DID || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/data/campaigns/Descent_Into_Darkness/images/misc/descent-into-darkness.png Файл] || - || - || -
|-
|Карта EI || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/data/campaigns/Eastern_Invasion/images/eastern-invasion-map.png Файл] || - || - || -
|-
|Карта L || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/data/campaigns/Liberty/images/maps/liberty-map.png Файл] || - || - || -
|-
|Карта LoW || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/images/legend-of-wesmere-map.png Файл] || - || - || -
|-
|Карта SotBE || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/images/farnorth.png Файл] || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/branches/1.8/data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/images/l10n/ru/farnorth--overlay.png готово] || 19.01.2010 || umi
|-
|Рисунки из TRoW || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/branches/1.8/data/campaigns/The_Rise_Of_Wesnoth/images/story Каталог] || - || - || -
|-
|Мультиплеер || [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/branches/1.8/data/core/images/lobby Каталог] || - || - || -
|-
|colspan=5 align="center"|'''Проекты из Wescamp''' (не-mainline)
|-
|[[CampaignEpicOfVaniyera|Эпопея Ваньеры]] || Epic_of_Vaniyera || 0% || - || phantom
|-
|[[CampaignInvasionFromTheUnknown|Вторжение ниоткуда]] || Invasion from the Unknown || 54% || - || dobryl, Fardeil
|-
|Судьба принцессы || [http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/*checkout*/wescamp-i18n/trunk/Fate_of_a_Princess/po/ru.po Fate of a Princess] || - || - || teddy
|}

'''Примечания'''.
# Дата последнего изменения — это дата, когда файл был отправлен разработчикам. Обычно довольно быстро он появляется на SVN. В составе же игры он появится, естественно, лишь с выходом новой подверсии. Если Вы не хотите ждать, Вы всегда можете скачать последний .po файл из SVN, скомпилировать из него .mo (например, с помощью редактора Poedit) и поместить его в директорию \po\ru\LC_MESSAGES.
# Если какой-то файл свободен, нуждается в правке/переводе и Вы хотели бы над ним поработать, то, пожалуйста, добавьте своё имя в соотв. колонку — чтобы не получилось, что два человека работают над одним файлом. Для работы следует брать последнюю версию файла из SVN (сейчас, 30.04.2010 — только [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/branches/1.8/po/ branches/1.8]). Аналогично, если Вы не хотите/не можете более поддерживать файл, уберите своё имя из таблицы, чтобы люди видели, что файл свободен.

== Типографика ==

Мы стараемся использовать символы типографики везде, где они необходимы. Это: буква "ё", правые и левые двойные кавычки, длинное тире.

В Windows их можно набрать так:
* включить NumLock;
* тире (—): Alt—0151 (набираем 0151 на цифровой клавиатуре);
* кавычки («»): Alt—0171 и Alt—0187;
* дефис ("чёрточка", через которую пишутся слова, например, "каляки-маляки"): обычный "минус".

кому интересно — [http://tlt.its.psu.edu/suggestions/international/accents/codealt.html здесь больше]

А ещё мы пишем "Вы" с большой буквы — там, где обращаемся к одному пользователю. Множественное число пишется с маленькой буквы.

== Как не надо переводить ==

Признаки плохого перевода:
* примитивные кальки с английского: слова "имеет", "является";
* порядок слов, как в английском предложении, но нехарактерный для русского;
* слова, более бледные, чем в оригинале;
* канцелярит.

== См. также ==

* [[RussianTranslationDictionary|Словарь имён и названий]]
* [[RussianListOfUnits|Словарь родов войск]]
* [[RussianGlossary|Глоссарий русского перевода]]
* [[GettextForTranslators|Как работать с po-файлами (англ.)]]
* [[ProseStyle|Стиль речи (англ.)]]
* [[CampaignBurningSuns:RussianTranslation]]
* [[CampaignANewOrder:RussianTranslation]]
* [http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=964 Ветка в форуме, посвященная русскому переводу]
* [http://gettext.wesnoth.org/index.lang.php?lang=ru&version=trunk Статистика перевода для русского языка]

== Внешние ссылки ==
[http://lib.rus.ec/b/74970 Нора Галь, "Слово живое и мёртвое"] - всем, кто что-либо переводит, читать обязательно. И тем, кто хоть что-то пишет по-русски.

[[Category:Russian]]

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Umi: /* Текущее состояние переводов (версия 1.6) */

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Umi:

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Umi:

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Umi:

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Umi:

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GettextForTranslators

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Umi:

== Gettext for translators ==

Wesnoth translation is now divided into several text-domains:
* wesnoth
* wesnoth-editor
* wesnoth-lib (contains strings shared by game and editor)
* plus one text-domain for each campaign. The names of these text-domains are constructed from the word wesnoth and the common abbreviation of the campaign (wesnoth-ei, wesnoth-httt, wesnoth-trow, wesnoth-tb, wesnoth-tsg and wesnoth-utbs).

We will use the Swedish (sv) language and the ''wesnoth'' domain as an example in this page.
There are three important files for each text-domain:
* ''wesnoth/wesnoth.pot'' file, which contains all the strings used in the main game (neither editor, nor campaign strings). You can see how a ''.pot'' file looks like in SVN : [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/po/wesnoth/wesnoth.pot?view=markup Current SVN version].
* ''wesnoth/sv.po'', the file containing the translation, you can see how a ''.po'' file looks like in SVN: [http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/po/wesnoth/sv.po?view=markup Current SVN version].
* ''{translations_dir}/sv/LC_MESSAGES/wesnoth.gmo'', which is a binary version of <lang>.po that the game will use for efficiency reasons. This is not found in cvs, but is created during compilation of the game.

The first of these files, we update every once in a while, when there is new or modified text,
for instance when a new campaign scenario hits the SVN.

Then, ''msgmerge'' is used to merge this new "state of the game strings" with your current translations, and generate a new, up-to-date, ''sv.po''.

Then, a tool called ''msgfmt'' is called, which generates a new ''wesnoth.gmo'' file from your ''wesnoth.po'' file, which will be used by the game once installed.

"make -C po update-po" does these three steps in one pass.

That was for the "Big Picture".
But you really just need to be concerned with the po file:
translating new strings, checking "fuzzy" entries.
We can handle the administrative tasks of updating etc.
You really don't need to bother with any of these commands, unless you want to compile gmo files to check in-game.

Ivanovic is now responsible for integrating translations into Wesnoth, with the help of Torangan and ott.
You should contact Ivanovic (crazy-ivanovic AT gmx DOT net), and he'll put them in the game.

When sending po files to a maintainer to be included in SVN, please create a zip or tar.gz/bz2 archive that you attach, rather than cutting and pasting the translations into an email. The translated strings are
very sensitive to formatting and the archive will also help distinguish which file is which when sending more than one po file.

== FAQ ==
* What's a fuzzy string?
** It's a string calling for translator revision. For example, if an English string gets a small change and you run the ''msgmerge'' program, it will mark the translation of that string fuzzy. When we switched to gettext we marked all translations as fuzzy as lots of them were outdated.
* What are "Plural-forms"?
** Some languages have different word forms for different numbers of things (for example in English we have "1 thing" but "2 thing'''s'''"). The rules are different for different languages. You can find them [http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/l10n/pluralforms here].
* My language needs a different font to get displayed correctly.
** Wesnoth uses several different fonts, and the number is likely to grow with the support for new alphabets/writing systems. Right now we are using DejaVuSans (Roman and Cyrillic), FreeSans (Greek), sazanami-gothic (Japanese) and gkai00mp (Chinese). In the wesnoth/sv.po you will find a string containing the currently used fonts. By changing the order of fonts listed, you choose which font is preferred for your translations. A language using Greek letters would for instance translate that string with:
msgid "DejaVuSans.ttf,FreeSans.ttf,sazanami-gothic.ttf,gkai00mp.ttf"
msgstr "FreeSans.ttf,DejaVuSans.ttf,sazanami-gothic.ttf,gkai00mp.ttf"
Note that if a certain letter/glyph is not found in the first font listed, the second font will be scanned for it and so on.
* What should I do to insert a newline in a string?
** If you want to insert a newline in a string you need to include the pair of characters "". You can use normal newlines as you wish as they don't affect the translation.
* How do I use ' within a single-quote delimited string when translating text= in help screen texts?
** Add a backslash before it.
* What should I do with strings like "Prefs section^General"?
** There are ambiguous strings which should be translated in a different way depending on where they appear. For example, we have "General" in the preferences as "General preferences" and we can also have "a General". These strings can have different translations for a given language, so we use "context" to solve this. The prefix only tries to give a hint about the string, and should be not translated, for example:
msgid "Prefs section^General"
msgstr "General"
* Who can I ask for further information?
** You can ask Ivanovic, Torangan, ott, Yann or Isaac in IRC (irc.freenode.net, #wesnoth or #wesnoth-dev).
If you don't like IRC, send a mail to crazy-ivanovic AT gmx DOT net, or pm him (ivanovic) at the forum.
* How do I quickly test PO file changes?
** When you modify a PO file, run "make update-gmo" in the main po directory to create a new MO file, then run "make install" there to install the new MO file.
** Then force cache rebuild. This is tricky -- if you only update MO files, the game may use a cached (i.e., old) version letting you wonder why it still displays the old translation. Either change game.cfg modification time, e.g. with "touch /usr/local/share/wesnoth/game.cfg", or delete the corresponding cache[s] in ~/.wesnoth/cache.
* The .po file in SVN has changed, how do I move over the translations I've made?
** If your file with additional translations is called old.po and the new file from SVN is called svn.po, create a new file called new.po by doing

msgmerge -o new.po old.po svn.po

The new file new.po will keep your translations from old.po as well as the new strings from svn.po, but check the result -- some translations will not be possible to move across if the original strings changed, these are kept as comments at the end of the file.

* How to generate man files from wesnoth-man(current 1.3 trunk) .po files?
To create "real" manpages out of the po files you have to install a prog
named "po4a" and run make update-po4a inside the maindir before running
make and make install. They are not automatically created out of po
files. With that command the files will be created and afterwards installed.

Note: At least 80% of the .po file must be translated for the creation of a man file

== Tools ==

There are several tools to work with .po files:
* [http://userbase.kde.org/Lokalize Lokalize] (Unix KDE, intended to replace KBabel)
* [http://i18n.kde.org/tools/kbabel/ KBabel] (Unix KDE)
* [http://gtranslator.sourceforge.net/ GTranslator] (Unix Gnome)
* [http://www.poedit.net/ poEdit] (Multiplatform)
* [http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html Emacs with po-mode] (Multiplatform)
* [http://www.vim.org/ Vim] with [http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=695 PO plug-in] (Multiplatform)

Of course, you can edit po files with any UTF-8 capable text editor, but the tools listed above have great advantages over any text editor regarding .po translation, like going to next fuzzy/untranslated string, searching only in specific fields (msgid, msgstr, comment), ...

== See Also ==

* [[WesnothTranslations]]
* [[WesnothTranslationsHowTo]]
* [[GettextForWesnothDevelopers]]
* [http://gettext.wesnoth.org/ Translation statistics]

[[Category:Translations]]