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User talk:Adamsetzler

2011-05-10T22:01:01Z

Adamsetzler:

== Link description Improvements ==
Hi Adamsetzler!<br>
I saw that you did some edits in the last time on [[BuildingScenarios]] and [[BuildingCampaigns]] and changed some link texts. I don't want to discuss here where that is useful and where it isn't - admittedly I don't think all of your changes are improvements - but I wanted to tell you that we (meaning: [[user:monochromatic|monochromatic]] and me) are currently discussing a whole structure change on this wiki. Since I don't want you to waste your time making edits which will maybe be just ignored in a not so distant future, I wanted to warn you. ;)<br>
Nevertheless thank you for your help. We will need some people who are eager to help us with our editing. If you would like to help us out, please inform us (for example by replying to this message). Your help would be greatly appreciated then; only now it's unfortunately a bit redundant. --[[User:Crendgrim|Crendgrim]] 18:24, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
:<s>I think linking texts like BuildingCampaignsSimple, BuildingCampaignsIntermediate and BuildingCampaignsAdvanced look unprofessional. Furthermore, I'm interested in what you admittedly don't consider an improvement, since otherwise your message sounds snobbish.</s>
:
:<s>From the looks of it, if you had sent any messages with that tone to other editors, perhaps that is why the wiki looks like an AOL user put it together, since criticism without critique is nothing more than an arbitrary insult.</s>

:<s>[[User:Adamsetzler|Adamsetzler]] 19:31, 10 May 2011 (UTC)</s>

::First of all, please do not answer on discussion on other user's pages but on the page the discussion was started. Else it's very hard to follow a conversation. I moved your comment on my talk page to this place.
::Second, my comment wasn't meant as an insult on you but as a tip. If you change now those articles, your changes are very likely to get lost during our re-ordering.
::Third, your tone isn't very patient either. Please be aware that I'm no native speaker, so it's quite possible that you misinterpret what I try to say.
::And finally, everywhere in this Wiki are links in the style of "BuildingCampaignsAdvanced" (look e.g. at the "See also" sections in many WML-related pages), what is one reason for us to make the revamp. --[[User:Crendgrim|Crendgrim]] 20:11, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

:::Very well, then. I would indeed like to help. I am a native English speaker and am sensitive to tone, but that also makes me useful in editing. If I can help in any way, let me know. I am also currently building a campaign with a colleague of mine.

:::[[User:Adamsetzler|Adamsetzler]] 20:18, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

::::Great :)
::::We still have to decide on how to make the revamp exactly, so I can't tell you yet what you can do. I'll contact you once we're finished with our concept. Am I right that you're also "adamsetzler" on the forums? --[[User:Crendgrim|Crendgrim]] 20:54, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

:::::Yes, I am. Looking forward to contributing.
:::::[[User:Adamsetzler|Adamsetzler]] 22:01, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

User talk:Adamsetzler

2011-05-10T20:27:12Z

Adamsetzler:

User talk:Adamsetzler

2011-05-10T20:26:57Z

Adamsetzler:

User talk:Adamsetzler

2011-05-10T20:18:27Z

Adamsetzler:

== Link description Improvements ==
Hi Adamsetzler!<br>
I saw that you did some edits in the last time on [[BuildingScenarios]] and [[BuildingCampaigns]] and changed some link texts. I don't want to discuss here where that is useful and where it isn't - admittedly I don't think all of your changes are improvements - but I wanted to tell you that we (meaning: [[user:monochromatic|monochromatic]] and me) are currently discussing a whole structure change on this wiki. Since I don't want you to waste your time making edits which will maybe be just ignored in a not so distant future, I wanted to warn you. ;)<br>
Nevertheless thank you for your help. We will need some people who are eager to help us with our editing. If you would like to help us out, please inform us (for example by replying to this message). Your help would be greatly appreciated then; only now it's unfortunately a bit redundant. --[[User:Crendgrim|Crendgrim]] 18:24, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
:I think linking texts like BuildingCampaignsSimple, BuildingCampaignsIntermediate and BuildingCampaignsAdvanced look unprofessional. Furthermore, I'm interested in what you admittedly don't consider an improvement, since otherwise your message sounds snobbish.
:
:From the looks of it, if you had sent any messages with that tone to other editors, perhaps that is why the wiki looks like an AOL user put it together, since criticism without critique is nothing more than an arbitrary insult.

:[[User:Adamsetzler|Adamsetzler]] 19:31, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

::First of all, please do not answer on discussion on other user's pages but on the page the discussion was started. Else it's very hard to follow a conversation. I moved your comment on my talk page to this place.
::Second, my comment wasn't meant as an insult on you but as a tip. If you change now those articles, your changes are very likely to get lost during our re-ordering.
::Third, your tone isn't very patient either. Please be aware that I'm no native speaker, so it's quite possible that you misinterpret what I try to say.
::And finally, everywhere in this Wiki are links in the style of "BuildingCampaignsAdvanced" (look e.g. at the "See also" sections in many WML-related pages), what is one reason for us to make the revamp. --[[User:Crendgrim|Crendgrim]] 20:11, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

:::Very well, then. I would indeed like to help. I am a native English speaker and am sensitive to tone, but that also makes me useful in editing. If I can help in any way, let me know. I am also currently building a campaign with a colleague of mine.

:::[[User:Adamsetzler|Adamsetzler]] 20:18, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

User talk:Adamsetzler

2011-05-10T20:18:02Z

Adamsetzler:

== Link description Improvements ==
Hi Adamsetzler!<br>
I saw that you did some edits in the last time on [[BuildingScenarios]] and [[BuildingCampaigns]] and changed some link texts. I don't want to discuss here where that is useful and where it isn't - admittedly I don't think all of your changes are improvements - but I wanted to tell you that we (meaning: [[user:monochromatic|monochromatic]] and me) are currently discussing a whole structure change on this wiki. Since I don't want you to waste your time making edits which will maybe be just ignored in a not so distant future, I wanted to warn you. ;)<br>
Nevertheless thank you for your help. We will need some people who are eager to help us with our editing. If you would like to help us out, please inform us (for example by replying to this message). Your help would be greatly appreciated then; only now it's unfortunately a bit redundant. --[[User:Crendgrim|Crendgrim]] 18:24, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
:I think linking texts like BuildingCampaignsSimple, BuildingCampaignsIntermediate and BuildingCampaignsAdvanced look unprofessional. Furthermore, I'm interested in what you admittedly don't consider an improvement, since otherwise your message sounds snobbish.
:
:From the looks of it, if you had sent any messages with that tone to other editors, perhaps that is why the wiki looks like an AOL user put it together, since criticism without critique is nothing more than an arbitrary insult.

:[[User:Adamsetzler|Adamsetzler]] 19:31, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

::First of all, please do not answer on discussion on other user's pages but on the page the discussion was started. Else it's very hard to follow a conversation. I moved your comment on my talk page to this place.
::Second, my comment wasn't meant as an insult on you but as a tip. If you change now those articles, your changes are very likely to get lost during our re-ordering.
::Third, your tone isn't very patient either. Please be aware that I'm no native speaker, so it's quite possible that you misinterpret what I try to say.
::And finally, everywhere in this Wiki are links in the style of "BuildingCampaignsAdvanced" (look e.g. at the "See also" sections in many WML-related pages), what is one reason for us to make the revamp. --[[User:Crendgrim|Crendgrim]] 20:11, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

:::Very well, then. I would indeed like to help. I am a native English speaker and am sensitive to tone, but that also makes me useful in editing. If I can help in any way, let me know. I am also currently building a campaign with a colleague of mine.

User talk:Crendgrim

2011-05-10T19:31:22Z

Adamsetzler: Created page with 'I think linking texts like BuildingCampaignsSimple, BuildingCampaignsIntermediate and BuildingCampaignsAdvanced look unprofessional. Furthermore, I'm interested in what you admi…'

I think linking texts like BuildingCampaignsSimple, BuildingCampaignsIntermediate and BuildingCampaignsAdvanced look unprofessional. Furthermore, I'm interested in what you admittedly don't consider an improvement, since otherwise your message sounds snobbish.

From the looks of it, if you had sent any messages with that tone to other editors, perhaps that is why the wiki looks like an AOL user put it together, since criticism without critique is nothing more than an arbitrary insult.

[[User:Adamsetzler|Adamsetzler]] 19:31, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

BuildingScenarios

2011-05-10T17:51:34Z

Adamsetzler: /* Index */

Wesnoth scenarios are the individual levels within the game. Or they can be advanced multiplayer maps, with extra characters and items and such. Each scenario contains two files. First is the map itself, this is described in [[BuildingMaps]]. The second is the config file. This configuration file is used to describe everything about the scenario. Both of the files are ascii and can be edited in any standard text editor (vi, notepad, etc.) If you decide to use a wordprocessor, please make sure you remember to ''Save As'' text.

Scenarios are written in the [[ReferenceWML | Wesnoth Markup Language]].

This document is split into several sections, starting with a basic tutorial and moving into more complex techniques. From the information contained within this document you should have all the knowledge to create Wesnoth scenarios. If you see any mistakes or missing information, please feel free to fix the pages yourself, add a comment to the comment page, or email me jzaun at campus dot hpu dot edu.

<div class="navtemplate">
==== Index ====
[[BuildingScenarios|Building Scenarios]]
:* '''[[BuildingScenariosSimple|Simple]] - [[BuildingScenariosIntermediate|Intermediate]] - [[BuildingScenariosAdvanced|Advanced]]'''
:* [[BuildingScenariosSimple - French Version|Simple (French)]]
:* [[BuildingScenariosComments|Advice]] - Comments left for advice
:* [[BuildingScenariosSamples|Sample Code]] - Basic sample code
:* [[BuildingScenariosShroudData|SHROUD_DATA Tutorial]] - A tutorial on shroud_data
:* [[BuildingScenariosBalancing|Balancing]] - How to balance your scenario
:* [[BuildingScenariosFAQ|FAQ]] - Frequently Asked Questions
</div class="navtemplate">

== Quick Tag Index ==
'''[[ScenarioWML]]''' the top level tags [scenario], [multiplayer], [test], and [tutorial]
:* [[EventWML]] how to describe an event
:** [[FilterWML]]
:** [[DirectActionsWML]], [[InterfaceActionsWML]], [[InternalActionsWML]]
:* [[SideWML]] how to describe a side
:** [[SingleUnitWML]]
:** [[BuildingScenariosShroudData]]
:* [[MapGeneratorWML]] the random map generator
:* [[TimeWML]] how to describe a day
:* [[IntroWML]] how to describe the intro screen
:* [[UtilWML]] a set of preprocessors you can use

== See Also ==

* [[Create]]
* [[ReferenceWML]] - WML master reference
** [[AlphabeticalWML]] - a tag index
** [[BuildingScenariosIndex]] - in-depth key and tag index

{{Create}}

BuildingScenarios

2011-05-10T17:51:16Z

Adamsetzler: /* Index */

Wesnoth scenarios are the individual levels within the game. Or they can be advanced multiplayer maps, with extra characters and items and such. Each scenario contains two files. First is the map itself, this is described in [[BuildingMaps]]. The second is the config file. This configuration file is used to describe everything about the scenario. Both of the files are ascii and can be edited in any standard text editor (vi, notepad, etc.) If you decide to use a wordprocessor, please make sure you remember to ''Save As'' text.

Scenarios are written in the [[ReferenceWML | Wesnoth Markup Language]].

This document is split into several sections, starting with a basic tutorial and moving into more complex techniques. From the information contained within this document you should have all the knowledge to create Wesnoth scenarios. If you see any mistakes or missing information, please feel free to fix the pages yourself, add a comment to the comment page, or email me jzaun at campus dot hpu dot edu.

<div class="navtemplate">
==== Index ====
[[BuildingScenarios]]
:* '''[[BuildingScenariosSimple|Simple]] - [[BuildingScenariosIntermediate|Intermediate]] - [[BuildingScenariosAdvanced|Advanced]]'''
:* [[BuildingScenariosSimple - French Version|Simple (French)]]
:* [[BuildingScenariosComments|Advice]] - Comments left for advice
:* [[BuildingScenariosSamples|Sample Code]] - Basic sample code
:* [[BuildingScenariosShroudData|SHROUD_DATA Tutorial]] - A tutorial on shroud_data
:* [[BuildingScenariosBalancing|Balancing]] - How to balance your scenario
:* [[BuildingScenariosFAQ|FAQ]] - Frequently Asked Questions
</div class="navtemplate">

== Quick Tag Index ==
'''[[ScenarioWML]]''' the top level tags [scenario], [multiplayer], [test], and [tutorial]
:* [[EventWML]] how to describe an event
:** [[FilterWML]]
:** [[DirectActionsWML]], [[InterfaceActionsWML]], [[InternalActionsWML]]
:* [[SideWML]] how to describe a side
:** [[SingleUnitWML]]
:** [[BuildingScenariosShroudData]]
:* [[MapGeneratorWML]] the random map generator
:* [[TimeWML]] how to describe a day
:* [[IntroWML]] how to describe the intro screen
:* [[UtilWML]] a set of preprocessors you can use

== See Also ==

* [[Create]]
* [[ReferenceWML]] - WML master reference
** [[AlphabeticalWML]] - a tag index
** [[BuildingScenariosIndex]] - in-depth key and tag index

{{Create}}

BuildingCampaigns

2011-05-10T00:38:22Z

Adamsetzler: /* Next: */

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This page describes how to make your own user campaign for use with Battle for Wesnoth. Please note that this document is not normative - its author is not a Wesnoth developer. I'm simply reporting on what works for me, and on what developers have prescribed elsewhere.
If you see any errors, please fix them.

See also [[DebuggingCampaigns]] if your scenario doesn't load.

There are several steps to building a single player campaign in Wesnoth. The mechanics are covered in the sections below:

* [[BuildingCampaignsDirectoryStructure]]
* [[BuildingCampaignsTheCampaignFile]]
* [[BuildingCampaignsThePBLFile]]
* [[BuildingCampaignsDistribution]]
* [[WesCamp]] (How to make your campaign translatable, and get in touch with translators)
* [[Wesnoth UMC Dev]] (Where you can collaborate on UMC projects)

Because many aspiring campaign developers find the initial creation of a working campaign to be difficult (if not exasperating) a [[BuildingCampaignsTutorial|step-by-step tutorial]] covering the initial phase of campaign development (getting it to work) is under construction. It includes a working campaign that you can install, and then alter to fit your own needs

Xer has also created a campaign skeleton which is the barebones of a campaign: [http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/download/file.php?id=24587 here]

What follows is a collection of advice to aspiring campaign designers extracted from the Wesnoth fora. For a more in-depth treatment including heuristics for scenario and campaign balancing, see the [http://catb.org/~esr/wesnoth/campaign-design-howto.html Campaign Design How-To].

== Start with Something Manageable ==

If you set out to make an epic campaign spanning the whole history of Wesnoth, you'll likely (not necessarily, though)
become bored or frustrated along the
way somewhere and give up. It's much easier to start with a small story and add elements to it than it is to cut an
epic down to the length of a haiku.

;Shade (author of The Rise of Wesnoth) wrote<nowiki>:</nowiki>
: I started TRoW last April, even after it was scenario complete it was still eating all of my free time (Time not spent sleeping, at school / work, or with loved ones / friends) until mid-November... Even now there is still bugfixing and a couple of things I'd like to add... and keeping it up to date with the game engine and any new happenings on the WML front... so there is still quite a lot to keep you busy after you are done... The forums are littered with half finished epics... Before you commit to an epic think long and hard. I don't want to discourage you too much... But it is a lot of 'work' (& fun)

== Story First ==

What separates a campaign from a single scenario is the ability to tell a story. Consequently, what keeps people coming back for more is a good, interesting story mixed with good, interesting game play. If you have a good idea of where the story of your campaign is going when you start, the little
pieces will fall into place much more easily. After all, it worked for Pixar!

;Scott (author of Liberty, the outlaw campaign) wrote<nowiki>:</nowiki>
: Here is how I wrote Liberty.
:# Write a rough story and plot
:# Decide how many scenarios you want to have
:# Divide the story between the scenarios so you can decide what will happen in each scenario
:#* where are you?
:#* who are you fighting and why?
:#* what do you have to do in this scenario?
:#* where does the hero want to go next?
:# Decide on the "hook" for each scenario. There are a lot of different possible setups for scenarios, and if you want to avoid the boring repetition of "Kill the 2 enemy leaders" you can list interesting combinations of enemies, allies, shroud/fog, day/night effects, recruiting and terrain situations, etc. and pick a good mix to keep the combat interesting and fun.
: All of this has happened without doing any WML, but now you have enough to start coding.

The [http://catb.org/~esr/wesnoth/campaign-design-howto.html Campaign Design How-To] has much more to say about this storyboarding phase of the process.

== Share Early ==

Don't be shy to post whatever you've created for others to look at. We all had to learn too, and there are many people on the Scenario and Campaign Development forum (http://www.wesnoth.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=8) who are eager to help people learn.

;Turin (author of Eastern Invasion) wrote<nowiki>:</nowiki>
: I'm working on a loyalist campaign now. I already have the basic plot. I am wondering if anyone wants to playtest my completed levels (i am done with two). Thus i want to know if i should just post the new files as attachments, or what. There are two map files, two scenario files, an image file, a unit file, and you have to change the game file to access the campaign from the 'campaign menu. So tell me how i should make them accessable.

== Steal Often ==

There are too many quotations to pick one for this maxim. The best way to learn how to do something is to copy it from someone else's campaign. It's polite to ask first, and most Campaign designers are happy to see small bits of their WML living in other campaigns.
It's generally poor form to copy whole scenarios, maps, and campaigns, though. And especially poor form to do so without permission.

== Next: ==
* [[BuildingCampaignsTheCampaignFile|Building Campaigns: The Campaign File]]

== See Also ==

* [[Create]]
* [[BuildingScenarios]]
* [[ReferenceWML]]
* [[UserScenarios]]
* [[ExternalUtilities]]
* [http://www.catb.org/~esr/wesnoth/campaign-design-howto.html Campaign Design How To]

{{Create}}